You Ain't Grown til You're Gone

4/2/2017

"A quick temper will make a fool of you soon enough." ~Bruce Lee

Instructions: Defend or challenge whether youth, ages 17-19, should be legally forced to get out of their parents home when they feel that they do not have to abide by their rules.

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Respond in no more than five (5) sentences and no less than five (5). You must also reply to a classmate's post. You cannot post identical comments on different classmates' posts. Posting shallow comments such as "I agree" or "I disagree" will not earn you a passing grade. Make sure your posts address the reply that you are responding to.

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Due: Fri., April 7, 2017 11:59 p.m. CST

K. Maple 4th

4/3/2017 01:21:13 am

As a youth myself, young people often say things they do not mean. We sometimes are frustrated by the conflicting human need for independence and the parental instinct to protect. Because of this, parents should allow everyone in the situation to be calmed before any rash decisions are made. This applies to most conflicts. Communication is key to any relationship, familiar or otherwise, and without it one will always have issues with those around them. The government should not interfere, under any circumstances, with matters of the home. The law is just but not sympathetic or personable. Officials make decisions based solely on a single action without taking in to consideration a person's history or personality.

victor ajuobi

4/3/2017 10:41:29 am

I agree with your statement because i also believe that as a teenager we say things to our parents that we don't mean. The need for independence is a good reason as why teens tend to disobey their parents rules. Adding the government into this only makes things worse and could divide the family.

jakobe earl

4/17/2017 01:46:36 pm

I agree cause.Parents nowadays trip over one little comment and they would say if you dont like the rules then get out,or go live with your dad or something.

D.Moseley-1st Pd

4/7/2017 09:53:27 pm

I agree Miss Maple because problems between parent and child should be talked through because that can leave a trail of hurt with not only the parties involved, but people to follow. But in some cases the child needs to be scared in order to behave right . So being kicked out can scare that child into doing right.

Martin m. 3rd period

4/3/2017 06:41:33 am

Yes because parents provide a roof over their kids head I mean how hard can it be to just follow simple rules and then again its the parents house and they do provide for u and if u can't follow simples rules the parents have every right to make u go on your own and be independent and then that's the age to be Independent anyways I no parents should kick there kids out but its for the kids own good and will teach them responsibility and respect.

T.Dawson 1st

4/3/2017 11:41:50 am

While I agree that parents have every right to make "u" go on your own, the interference of the government should not be present in personal situations. Legally forcing youth out of homes would simply waste law enforcement resources.

E.Valdez- 4th pd

4/7/2017 07:41:45 pm

Martin, exactly for the same reason that its the parents roof, not legal actions should be taken. Legal actions would be taken my officials with authority and somehow the government would be involved. So, my question is why should government or any authority intervene under the parents roof?

J.green 3rd

4/8/2017 10:53:08 pm

I agree with your statement because i also believe that as a teenager we say things to our parents that we don't mean.

victor ajuobi

4/3/2017 10:36:41 am

i challenge the idea of a 17- 19 year old being legally forced out of their homes just because they feel that they don't have to follow their parents rule because of the simple answer that their still kids. As kids are growing their mentality starts to change and so does their attitude, but it something that occurs naturally and is something to be expected from a teenager. As they see more of the world and get exposed to different things they tend to be disobedient, but this shouldn't result in a legal exclusion of them from the household. They are just acting that way because their getting older, and usually they don't mean to be rude or opposing to their parents their just growing up. This is why i think that legally forcing out your child just because they don't follow their rules is wrong.

T.Dawson

4/3/2017 11:31:07 am

I challenge the idea of a 17-19 year old being legally forced out of their homes for not abiding to their parents rules, key word legally. In the end, it is up to the parent(s) as to what to do with their child. The government should have no say in the personal conflicts within a family unless safety is at risk. It is quite common for a teenager to be rebellious against their parents and the law. Forcing a child out of their home by law will only instigate the child more, causing more harm than good.

B.Criss1st

4/4/2017 07:50:29 pm

I agree Ms. Dawson you cant interfere something personal woth federal it makes no since.

S.Moncivais 1st

4/7/2017 10:15:56 pm

I have to agree with you Ms.Dawson because teenager should not be legally forced out of their house unless there is a risk to they safety, and not just because they didn't want to abide the rules

Shantanese Stevenson

4/7/2017 11:23:56 pm

I absolutely agree with Ms. Dawson the government shouldn't have a option whether a teenager should be kicked out of their home kicking the teenager out the house would makes things worse

B.Criss 1st

4/3/2017 03:16:15 pm

No they shouldn't because they still have so much to learns and still need to depend on their parents for survival.What teenager do you know that has a steady job in school paying a mortgage or rent and is still in school with passing grades. The only reason teenagers feel that need to get out the house is because they feel misunderstood or they don't see eye to eye with their parents. Also, because as teenager we think we know everything ans once we get fed up we make plans to get out and not come back but in all actuality we need them. So, no that should not be a legal law cause statistics state the average adult doesn't leave the house until the age of 28.

Z.Williams

4/4/2017 07:52:37 pm

I strongly disagree with your statement because a child may be dependent however, if a child feels that they have reached a point where they do not need their parents when they are legally grown, then they can leave. At 18 years old is when the most disagreements or a stronger relationship is built with parents, at this age if you are properly raised you should have the right work ethic and plans on what you will be doing when you going to be out working on your own. And if you have dreams that are your parents disagree with and you have been working hard for you will disagree. Therefore, between the ages of 17-19 a child who is ready to leave has their mind set on whatever it is they want to do and feel that they have mastered everything needed in order to do it on their own. Take college graduates or athletes for example, if you go to college and focus on education and tools to help you accomplish your goal, you can get out of college and completely dominate allowing you to have enough money to live on your own; same for athletes, they work and train their bodies to get scholarships and make it professional so that they can make lots of money. This concludes that if you are mature and ready to take on the world on your own at the age of 17-19 you have had enough guidance from 1-17 to feel that way and should be allowed to try living on your own.

kenneth ajuboi

4/4/2017 05:54:50 pm

I agree with the statement because things you may not want to say can effect who you are just by the slightest temper. you may not want to scream or shout at anybody and say abused thing about them but sometime it happens. it up to you to learn when and what to say before one action and inflict what you are and your image of who you are.

Z.Williams

4/4/2017 07:40:19 pm

Children should be able to leave the house when they feel they are ready as long as the parents have done their part in raising their child to the best of their ability. If a child feels the need to leave after they are properly raised then they should be able to. Rebellion is introduced when you are confident in your own tendencies and believe that someone else's is wrong. For example, parents usually tell their child what they think will suit them for a successful life, and as we get older we formulate our own ideas of success and if it is different than what was what our parents want, arguments and fights break out.

J. Wegscheider 1st

4/6/2017 10:21:27 am

I agree with your claim that it is the parents' responsibility to raise their children to the best of their ability. It is human nature to make decisions for ourselves and once we feel that "leaving the nest" is the best thing to do, then we/they should be supported and praised for wanting to experience independence.

J. Wegscheider- 1st

4/5/2017 10:50:20 am

I challenge the idea of legally forcing a young adult out of their parents' home because they do not abide by the rules. During the adolescent years, we often find ourselves stuck in a personal conflict because of peers and other irrelevant people/situations. With this, many have difficulty making the right choices they know are right because they battle themselves and try to look goof toward others to gain popularity and gain independence. Also, some may say things that they do not mean or act without any realization or intent of disobeying. Just because a young adult does not listen to the rules, that does not mean that they should be kicked out for the plain reason that some young adults may not have a support system (job, home, etc.). So to me, kicking out a young adult who will not listen does not make sense and if anything, they should receive more support than ever.

S. Mendez

4/7/2017 07:57:19 pm

You have a great point. Teenagers from ages 17-19 are going through some of the most toughest years in their life. They are dealing with highschool and transitioning to becoming young Adults. These are not easy transitions because of all the pressure and weight that falls onto them. Therefore, parents should be the most supporting and be okay with their children moving out later on when it is the right time for them.

J Wright 6th period

4/5/2017 08:59:00 pm

I Defend it because if the teen has their money right they can do whateva they want. If they want to act grown let them be grown out the house since they know everything. Some teen know how to control them self .

A.Dewberry 4th Period

4/5/2017 11:33:22 pm

Youth ages 17-19 should not be legally put out of there parents house if they don't abide by the rules. They are still young and need guidance into a adult hood. Yes they might think they are grown but I do believe that if the student isn't in college they should be home with there parents. Also, I do not believe that the government should intervene with parenting unless it deals with abuse of any form. there should not be an forceful removal of the CHILD because ,that is what they still are, by government officials.

M. Rodriguez 4th

4/7/2017 11:03:09 pm

Why do you believe that these teenagers can go against rules without consequences? If there are incapable of following rules, then they should learn how to follow them

D.Moseley-1st

4/7/2017 12:41:40 am

Youth ages 17-19 should not be legally kicked out the house if the child does not abide by the rules. At 17, the child cannot even provide for themselves fully because the legal age for buying an apartment or even simply buying cigarettes is 18. At 17, you are restricted to almost no freedoms and in most cases the parents try to conform the teen into something they are not causing rebellion. A mutual agreement between the two parties should help the situation and the circumstance should not elevate to the point where the child has to be removed or kicked out of the home. Allowing an older teen to be kicked out will only set them up for failure because their mind isn't fully mature and being exposed to more negative influences could quickly cause them to go down hill.

Malik B -3rd

4/7/2017 08:27:23 am

I challenge the idea of legally forcing a young adult out of their parents' home because they do not abide by the rules. Youth ages 17-19 should not be legally kicked out the house if the child does not abide by the rules.they might think they are grown but I do believe that if the student isn't in college they should be home with there parents.Just because a young adult does not listen to the rules, that does not mean that they should be kicked out for the plain reason that some young adults may not have a support system (job, home, etc.).

J.Grant

4/7/2017 10:41:20 am

I truely agree because children are children they going to do what children do. Children have to go through a mistake in life as well as the adult. Everyone make mistake so its okay to do the same. I understand if they where in college but these are average teenagers living in there parent home in high school.

J.Grant

4/7/2017 10:37:42 am

Youth ages 17-19 should not be legally kick out there parents home , because they are mentally unstable. Children might go through thing in and say thing in life but that's out of anger . Children do not know how to go through life with out guidance. If children is kick out they want be able to go through life , for one they didnt learn anything because they on the street . Children shouldnt go through that . I understand children can be disrespectful, but thats anger once again.

J. Bonilla - 1st

4/7/2017 11:15:17 pm

Ms.Grant, I agree with your statement. At the age of 17-19, they're going through a lot. Whether it's financially or school wise. They're not stable, but that's not an excuse to break their rules when they feel like they don't have to abide by them. At that age they should know what's right and wrong.

E.Valdez- 4th pd

4/7/2017 07:28:47 pm

Teenagers, ages 17-19 should not be legally forced to get out of their parents’ home when they feel that they do not to have to abide by their rules. No government should interfere with what happens in a household unless a crime such as physical abuse been committed. Furthermore, a teenager’s behavior is complex and impulsive meaning that their actions are reactions towards certain events, situation, and emotions. Usually when a teenager feels like not to abide by their parents rules is because some problems have around in the household, however, this is not for the government to intervene in. Not legal action should be taken for the simple reason of not wanting to abide by the parents rules that is between the parents and the teenager.

S. Mendez 4th

4/7/2017 07:51:11 pm

The government should not have the right to legally force teenagers to leave their parents home. Teenagers act impulsively and say or do things without thinking things through. Parents should know of their child's behavior and should understand that when you're young you want to be free. They should be comprehending and not rush to kick their children out of their home. The government should have no say so in what goes on in people's household because they wouldn't understand a families troubles.

Shantanese Stevenson 6th period

4/7/2017 09:49:48 pm

As the government involvement , they should not intervene when it comes to parenting decisions especially if there's no violence nor neglect involved. Normally teenagers tend to expose their bad behaviors when they are in current situation or bind that he or she can't overcome. Comparing teenagers to adults they are not fully competent of communicating and expressing feelings therefore they lash out. Removing a teenager from their home before they are an adult will affect them negatively in the future. It creates a sense of abandonment and they will rely on and everyone they come in contact with whether they are a positive or negative influences.

S.Moncivais 1st

4/7/2017 10:10:13 pm

Teenagers are used to think that they might have the power to decide whether they want to abide the rules force by their parents at home, but they don't. Teenagers at the ages of 17-19 should not be legally forced to leave their parents house because they did not want to abide. Parents need to make the child understand what is necessary to do when they live under the same roof, I believe that that's there is something respect and obligations that a child needs to accomplish. When a child doesn't live with their parents anymore, they become responsible for their own actions and they will follow they rules that they want. Meanwhile teens need to listen to what the parent say and if there is a problem they should arrange it a home and not with law if it's not that complicated.

M. Rodriguez 4th

4/7/2017 11:00:21 pm

Personally I believe that it should be legal to force these young adults out of their parents home if they are incapable of following their rules. Rules are set to keep you from trouble and if you find yourself breaking them, your parents should be allowed to let you go. Individuals may argue that perhaps these young adults may not be ready to be on their own, however they should of thought about it before putting themselves in these sticky situations. The real world is not going to be as nice as their parents so they should start getting use to it if they cannot follow simple rules. What makes them think it's going to get easier, whenever you leave your parents home you take upon society's rules, which is no different.

J.Bonilla - 1st

4/7/2017 11:11:08 pm

During the ages of 17-19, children know the difference between what's correct and what's incorrect. Parents have rules established in order for the household to run smoothly. If a child doesn't want to abide by the rules he or she should be capable of making the decision to begin living somewhere else. Yes, they do need support from their parents but if they don't want to follow the rules, why complicate each other's lives? No, they shouldn't be legally removed from the household, they should make the decision on their own or amongst the family when it's that time.

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