....Rules the Nation?

9/17/2017

Instructions: On one hand, there's police brutality, gang violence, violence against teens and corporate corruption. Then on the other, there are neighbors helping each other through hurricanes and earthquakes and a police officer buying diapers for a woman accused of stealing them. In either case, read and think about the quote above. Is it true or not? Explain your answer.

INCLUDE: First initial AND last name AND class period.

Respond in no more than 10 sentences and no less than five. You must also reply to a classmate's post. You cannot post identical comments on different classmates' posts. Posting shallow comments such as "I agree" or "I disagree" will not earn you a passing grade. Make sure your posts address the reply that you are responding to.

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Be clear about your position
Provide specific support for your argument
Use rhetorical devices and other grammar elements
Write EPIC Content-Engaging, Powerful, Informative, Creative

CAUTION!! Do NOT embarrass me, yourself, your class, the English department, the school or your parents with tasteless, meaningless comments. This is for a grade.

Due: Fri., Sept. 22, 2017 11:59 p.m. CST

D.Molo 1st

9/18/2017 12:30:05 am

I agree that this quote is true because the world is a cruel and biased place with corruption everywhere. The nation that we have is run by people with intentions on making it better for themselves not everybody else. The nation in the real world could care less what we did as long as it didn’t effect them. At least in our imagination we can make things great not just for ourselves ,but everyone even if it’s not real it’s what is right. If the nation could make it great for everyone it would be a whole lot better.

R.Young 6th

9/18/2017 04:24:51 pm

I agree, but if you think about it the world is not cruel its the people who make it cruel and violent .

A.Geter

9/18/2017 05:06:53 pm

I think that imagination is the best nation because everybody has wants world peace and to stop violence and be happy but in the real world you cant do that

T.Tate1st

9/21/2017 11:06:45 am

I agree because the world is what you make it in some places it's more violence then other places it's because of the people in that atmosphere that make the environment they live in cruel and violent .

T.Tate1st

9/21/2017 11:03:29 am

I believe that your statement is true because it is a lot of corruption around the world and the people that suppose to protect which is the police is killing us and against us .

I. Chancellor 1st period

9/22/2017 01:17:00 am

Although,we see a lot of things that look corrupt and cruel, but however, the whole world is not corrupt and cruel, there are things that make majority of the world good, that we do not know about. Although this might be true, there is a larger percent of people, who run their country, who care for the people's lives and their needs, but only a small percent do not.Also, in majority of countries,the people have a voice and can make stubborn leaders, do what does not effect them.With all honesty, there are good things going on in the world, that we do not know about, that are making countries a good nation, but because of the media, we do not know about it, due to the negativity being shown all the time.In conclusion, there are a lot of countries, who are making or trying to make their country a whole lot better, but we do not know about that, do to the media, only focusing on the small percent of bad, other than showing the large percent of good, that we do not know about.

Z. James 1st

9/18/2017 08:09:01 am

I believe that the quote is not true because there is another 'nation'... determination. I say this because in this nation we have conquered many things with not just imagination, but also determination. In this country we are all determined to do something whether it is right or wrong. For instance, Black people were determined to fight for their rights in the 1960's for Civil Rights. Even when bad events happen we still determination to get us out trouble, whether it be recovering from a hurricane or fighting for your life in a hospital room. Imagination is just dreaming while determination is actually putting work.

I. Florence 1st

9/18/2017 05:24:00 pm

I like that you stated determination is another "nation". I would have never thought of it like that. When you mentioned Black people being determined in the the 1960's for their civil rights, it reminded me how in today's society Black people are still determined to be equal to White's. But is a nation truly good? Especially our nation? In my opinion, if it was a good nation, Black people in the present year of 2017 would have no need or desire to protest just to be seen and treated as equal.

Joshua fluette link

9/18/2017 06:20:11 pm

If u really think about it a world can't be cruel.It is the things that make it cruel.

B. Criss

9/19/2017 07:36:55 pm

Not all people have that mindset most people are have become complacent with how the world is being ran so what is a solution for those people.

R.Young 6th

9/18/2017 04:23:01 pm

The world is a cruel place full of violence and brutality , everyone wants to do whats right for them instead of doing whats right for the community at least imagine how the world would turn out without violence it'll help a lot .

Brianna B.-6th

9/18/2017 06:06:12 pm

I agree, the world would be a better place without violence.

C. McCowin - 7th

9/19/2017 09:15:50 pm

Even though that this nation has dangerous situations happening, there are some good things happening. Not everybody thinks only about themselves, some people actually thinks about other people and would like to help them out. For instance, when people decided to go across country to help out the people who were affected by the hurricane, shows that they care about the people in this nation; and that's only one reason. But I think that some people only think about themselves and shows it by violence, brutality, etc.

Ty Smith 6th

9/22/2017 08:58:59 pm

I disagree that people show violence just because their thinking about themselves. Because they would see it on tv or read about it on social media.

T. Dawson 4th

9/20/2017 12:04:49 am

The world is a cruel place if you view it that way. What makes the world a "cruel place" are the people. Imagining a perfect world seems like a nice thing to do, but daydreaming is not going to solve international problems. The imagination used to envision a "violent -free" world should be accompanied with actions. Making your dreams into reality isn't a possibility with imagination alone.

Z. James

9/22/2017 10:40:18 pm

Getting rid of all of the evil in the world would make the world a better place. We all would learn to appreciate one another and fix our economy/environment.

F. Imani 1st

9/18/2017 05:10:47 pm

Yes this quotes is true. I say this because a nation is a large aggregate of people united by common descent, history, culture or language, inhabiting a particular nation or territory. If you look back in history, almost every nation has committed heinous acts against its people or another nations people. Even til this day, nations execute monstrous acts on people. And yes there are good acts kindness in the world, but this does not override the bad. For example, a large group of white people protect a small group of black people from a white supremacist organization during a rally. Does this automatically cast away previous, present, and future racist acts of terrorism against black people? No it does not. Imagination is the internal creation of new ideas, images and or concepts. The "nation" of imagination is the only way a nation can truly be good if the person allows it to be.

J.Maple 1st

9/21/2017 08:01:31 pm

The fact that we even have the chance to rally is part of the reason we are a good nation. People all over the world may fantasize of having the right to voice their opinions with a group of people that share it without fear of the government. The fact that we can even have all of these social issues and be vocal about it makes us a good nation. Our rallies and protests might be in someone else's imagination.

J. Grant

9/22/2017 04:09:38 pm

I agree with you because us people do focus on the surface level of imagination. Imagination can be look at indifferent ways or point of views. Imagination happen all the time.

Brianna B.-6th

9/18/2017 06:01:54 pm

The world is not cruel its all of us that makes it cruel. The only place that is not cruel is our imagination bc we can make anything happen in our imagination.

B. Criss 4/5

9/18/2017 07:11:56 pm

Imagination is a true nation. The things that the world id full of corrupts us as a nation. Our current president can not even help try to make the nation so called "Great Again" because he lacks the mindset. Our imagination can become our reality if we just accomplish the goals we have set in place for ourselves.But then again all people are not sane. So if that person's imagination becomes reality the we are screwed. So you really can not just rely on Imagination for a better nation. As people of minorities we have to use our determination to influence the rest of the nation to want better.

Victor ajuobi

9/19/2017 08:30:13 am

I like your statement because it uses our leaders today and their faults that there doing today, we as the new generation can make the world better just by applying our imagination an coming up with new ways to help people and solve problems. The nation is built upon new ideas.

kaleb washington 6th

9/21/2017 08:42:12 am

i follow along with what you say our government is also make it hard for people to keep livening in our today society and they are suppose to make it better for us to live in today so people use there imagination to escape reality

Maira Servij

9/18/2017 07:29:51 pm

I disagree with the polices using brutality on colored people just because polices are raíces and just inocent people walking on the street

Tyson Thornton 7th link

9/18/2017 11:54:52 pm

I think it's true whet all the craziness happen now of days anything is possible

Victor Ajuobi period 4

9/19/2017 08:27:58 am

I believe that this statement is trying to say that the best way to save our nation is to us our thinkers/ imagination to change the world. In the time where all these crimes, natural disasters, and diseases the best weapon to use is our minds. Our knowledge and creative processes can really help people. With new ideas we can come up with new solutions to help people. Imagination is the key to evolution in any environment and with the technology we have now we can always advance.

E. Hernandez 6th

9/20/2017 03:44:05 pm

I agree. It's a way to get around the real world and use our imagination to help out.

T.Dawson 4th

9/19/2017 01:01:46 pm

The best nation is not imagination. Simply because your imagination is not reality. Reality is going to be there, no matter how much you try to ignore it with imagination. Imagination is good for making your dreams reality through determination.Imagination should not be the complete makeup of any society. It is an important aspect , but there is such a thing as too much.

C.villanueva 1st

9/21/2017 12:51:17 pm

I agree, imagination can only go so far. It cannot create a society for us and think it's the best. Some people believe that living in your head is probably the worst thing ever.

D.Moseley-4th/5th

9/21/2017 08:40:31 pm

If the reality we know is just theories, isn't it our imagination along with reasoning that guides us to believe what we believe ?

R. Garcia 1st

9/22/2017 09:32:33 pm

I think Imagining does not necessarily mean you are ignoring reality, you simply take the reality and think of better alternatives.

kaleb washington 6th

9/19/2017 08:13:33 pm

the way people ecapce reality and the troubles of the society and it helps it gives people a chances to feel calm in the world they live in and it make it easy for them to focus on what matter most

J.Jackson 6th link

9/20/2017 06:53:39 pm

I agree with that alot oif people wont to be away sometime so think of happy things imagination .but also no it a good part of a nation somwhere else

C. McCowin - 7th

9/19/2017 09:04:12 pm

The quote in the picture is not true. I believe that the United States is a good nation. Even though there are bad and evil things happening, our nation does come together as one. For the most part our nation is overall good. The only reason why people think this nation is bad, is because of what the people make of it. Our nation is good with or without imagination.

E. Hernandez 6th

9/20/2017 03:43:08 pm

I agree because there's no nation that's good/perfect. When you have great imagination to make your own "nation", it's how you want it to be. So it's how you may think it's good/right. The society we live in now is twisted and messed up, but you can make your own with imagination. Again, this is only what YOU may think is a good nation, because it's YOUR imagination.

J.Jackson link

9/20/2017 06:49:22 pm

I do not agree withat that because imagination is somewhat the problem. it make people think and sometimes they actually do what they think.But it also is ture we think happy thoughts. The Imagination is where go to get away so yes it is the somewhat the only good nation

T.Tate 1st

9/21/2017 11:22:01 am

I believe the statement is true, because the United States is full of violence happening and all the other horrible things going on in the world and people don't feel safe . So when they imagine good things about the world .IT brings good energy and happy feelings to imagine what the world would be like if it wasn't none of the bad things happening .

T.Shelton 1st

9/21/2017 06:38:35 pm

I agree with your quote . In your imagination you can block things out .

C. Villanueva 1st

9/21/2017 12:43:22 pm

I don't think the quote is true. Wherever you are, any state, country or different "types" of worlds such as your imagination... you will have people that do the wrong thing or the right thing. We categorize people in our head and we imagine all others in that group are the same, for example the police. Our imaginations aren't perfect, maybe to ourselves but not others.

D. Parker, 1st period

9/21/2017 02:46:42 pm

I understand your thought process, but would like to mention that the imagination is only for the self and not others. What a person thinks only exists to bring them joy and excitement. When a physical country exists, multiple people are using their imaginations. That gives it space for corruption or a chance to flourish, depending on how it is used.

D. Parker, 1st period

9/21/2017 02:44:25 pm

I agree with the quote. The imagination is owned by only yourself and no one else can interfere with it, therefore making it malleable to your own sense of perfection. The concept of a country or nation is inherently flawed because it is ran by multiple people with different goals. No country will ever be pure or completely functionable. The imagination is controlled by one person only.

Summer johnson 1st

9/22/2017 11:08:09 pm

Many people can interfere with someone’s imagination. Why do ou think we have so many problem in our nation ? It is because we all imagine a different goa that may or may not be reached .

T.Shelton 1st

9/21/2017 06:36:09 pm

I agree with the quote above . Everyone’s ideal world or nation is different from others . What we see as bad (rape, murder , racism ,etc.) someone else might view as good . What the cop did for the woman was a nice thing but some people thought the woman should have went to jail . I believe that in our minds everyone has a good view of their own nation & what it should be . It’s a good nation because it’s in our minds and not being shown or voiced to others . However , some people’s dreams have became a reality.

Jalen Butler

9/21/2017 09:29:57 pm

But in reality we all know what is good and bad. Rape, murder, racism can be the exact factor to test and tear a nation apart.

J. Maple 1st

9/21/2017 07:49:43 pm

I disagree with this statement. Imagination is an imaginary place, and being in that headspace all the time can take a toll on your mental stability. The emphasis on imagination is that it's the place where our thoughts and true desires can come true, but it's also the source of our evils and worries. Our imagination can ruin us just as much and as fast as the real world. Our real nation is cruel, corrupt, and harsh. However, good things happen in the nation too. Our imagination can sometimes hinder us to seeing what's good right in front of us, because we think the only place miracles or opportunities can happen is in our minds.

S.Moncivais 4th

9/22/2017 08:12:05 pm

I have to agree with Ms. Maple, imagination is a place where you only escape for a while, but also the real world is cruel when we only see the bad parts of the world.

D.Moseley-4th/5th pd

9/21/2017 08:37:35 pm

A nation is only as good as it's people. There will always be cruel people in the world always up to no good no matter the location. But the downfall of a few individuals should not be the end story for the whole nation. How you perceive a place/location depends upon your mindset. What you may see as ghetto and unlivable another may call that home. It's the mentality of the people that create the environment. You can find positive within every situation no matter the circumstance.

D. Tonche

9/22/2017 12:35:15 pm

I see eye to eye with your commentary because a nation is dependent upon its people, if you take down the foundation of a house it will crumble down, just like this nation will do if it keeps mistreating its people.

Jalen Butler

9/21/2017 09:28:20 pm

I disagree because reality is greater than imagination. Therefore it will always be an evil minded, cruel, cold hearted people. And a Nation can only be like the people in it or controlled by it. But that does not mean the nation won't be good, there will be bad dallas yet the good will shine through.

D. Carter 1st period

9/21/2017 10:30:03 pm

I also disagree because imagination does not creat change, action creates change

Zakamion Murry 7th period

9/22/2017 04:05:47 pm

I agree with with the comment above mine because ,imagination helps you visualize things in your mind ,it does not relate to things in the real world your actions determine your life.

Fobbs A. 7

9/22/2017 11:57:56 pm

I relate to you, because you can dream all you want but your dreams wont never come true until you make some thing happen for it come true.

D. Carter 1st period

9/21/2017 10:28:52 pm

I do not think this it true because everyone's imagination is not good. Imagination is a product of thoughts but thoughts without action don't make a nation good. I don't think all nations are bad. Those policie officers killing blacks are apart of the same nation as the polices officers buying diapers for broke mothers. The nation has pros and cons.

B. Haynes 1st

9/22/2017 11:17:48 pm

I agree with you on the fact that everyone's imagination is not good. We all have different views on what can be done to make a nation a "good" nation. It's better to focus on reality and how we can make a change based on how nations are now rather than focusing on imagination.

I. Chancellor 1st period

9/21/2017 11:51:53 pm

The statement above is false because their are good things that are going on in are our and others nation that we do not know about. With all honesty, media just shows more negative things in our nation, than showing positive. Hypothetically speaking, 6 major or small companies in America, probably gave their employees a raise and paid the taxes for them, so it wouldn't be taken out of their check. Again, hypothetically speaking,50 major or small companies paid for half a million kids to go to college, but however we would not know about the two events, due to the media just showing corruption in businesses. Also, we know a lot about racism and killings, making our nation look bad, but how about we show a lot of different races coming together to help each other, by paying each other's bills, cleaning their house, and buying essentials for them, without tragedies being the result, of them helping. In conclusion, there is more good, than bad in our nation, so I think that imagination does now make our nation good, because there is good going on right now that is making our nation good, that we do not know about.

D. Tonche 1st pd

9/22/2017 12:19:06 pm

As we read the preamble the preamble of the declaration of independence for the 5th time in my Econ class, I wondered how many other countries promised their citizens to uphold peace and stability for them but failed to do so. Yet these unreliable nation remain intact because of the imagination that many of their population maintain it afloat with their innovations and their discoveries. Whether it is a 16-year old starting a social revolution to a animator making his first film. It is because of imagination that sparks the willpower for people to move forward. In agreement with the quotation above a good nation is resulted because of imagination.

Keishala B. 1st hour

9/22/2017 03:21:04 pm

I completely agree. Imagination is what got us to this day and age, the device you're using to type these simple, to us, messages started out in someone's imagination. An idea that sprung life into creativity and founded thought.

Keishala B. 1st hour

9/22/2017 03:18:47 pm

I like to think this quote extends further then what we are simply reading on the surface. I agree with this quote but in terms of imagination, creativity, and intelligent minds are needed as of right now. World peace will never exist, violence is ever present and nations will have evil in them no matter how long that nation shall stand. However it is up to us, the imaginative and creative minds to to find safety in that imagination. That ideology and intelligence that tells us that the world will never be at a constant peace, yet we can get rid of the inconveniences that are irrational and harmful traditions.

J.grant

9/22/2017 03:24:46 pm

I agree with this quote because the world we live in is a brutal and destructive world. People are known for making this the way it is. The only way people can think or Focus is by using imagination period throughout life we I told to imaginate or even when we were at children we had imaginations. So I think this quote is very true it relates too many things in life.

Zakamion Murry

9/22/2017 04:03:18 pm

In my opinion ,i think that imagination is one of the best features to a human mind. Imagination helps you create, or visualize things in your mind.

Summer johnson

9/22/2017 05:21:28 pm

Our imagination can be just as cruel and corrupt as the world seems. Many say our imagination is untouchable yet people will find a way to get into our mindset. Our imagination does not guarantee us that we are in a good lifestyle. Also good is a relative term our good can be another’s man bad, therefore our imagination doesnt set that tone that we think. Also if you imagine a friendly community then you can do it yourself instead of just thinking where no one else is.

Brandy Moreno 6th

9/22/2017 09:11:50 pm

I agree with you imagination is a powerful ability and is very helpful but also dangerous.

S. Moncivais 4th

9/22/2017 08:05:36 pm

I don't agree with this statement therefore The only good nation is imagination is not true. imagination is a place where you think everything is perfect, but is not. once you open your eyes to the world you see that there are cruel and compassionate (humane) things in the world where you live. There are not good nations overall but if you make the best of it you will have your own good nation. imagination will only give you a moment where you can escape reality for a while, but you have to face the real world after all.

J.Bonilla - 4th Period

9/22/2017 11:50:33 pm

This is true, nothing in this world is “perfect”. It may appear but behind the fake masks, everything isn’t as it seems. This imagination doesn’t allow people to face the true reality.

Ty Smith 6th

9/22/2017 08:43:16 pm

I think this statement is not true because imagination could also be harmful. Some people think about killing each other. What makes them think about that is by them watching it on tv, reading it on social media or hearing others talk about it. I think teenagers are more violent. I hope to see others come together and make the nation better.

N.Brown 1st

9/22/2017 09:35:52 pm

I agree with you because some people do imagine to kill someone but when you think about it they won't do it it's all in their head but in reality we can change the nation

R. Garcia 1st

9/22/2017 09:05:13 pm

I think the quote is true, but before any explanation is given, you must first understand what it is that makes a nation a “good nation”. A good nation is not measured by its economic stability, nor by the amount of power it has over other nations. What makes a good nation is the emphasis that is put on its citizens, it is the involvement and harmony of people working together as a whole, and the overall contributions each member makes to society. It is, after all, these characteristics that are shown when “ neighbors help each other through hurricanes and earthquakes, or when a police officer buys diapers for a woman accused of stealing them”, when the good qualities of a nation are shown. To think of a “good nation”, I believe, is to think of utopia: an IMAGINED nation, a paradise which possesses desirable conditions for all of its citizens. Its very essence is pure perfection, which is why the thought of a good nation, can only live in our imagination.

Brandy Moreno 6th

9/22/2017 09:08:31 pm

I think the statement is true, because the world has changed is so many ways from the past, people are scared everyday for themselves and loved ones. Imagination though can be harmful, because people love the thing they’re imagining so much that they will do anything to make it become a reality. The hand of police brutality and gang violence etc, imagination can be helpful by taking yourself out of that environment or imagining that all of it will end or go away and even atleast leave you. On the other hand of the neighbors helping eachother throughout the hurricane, imagination can also be helpful, imaging that you and your loved ones will make it through the hardtimes can help, also you can imagine leaving the destruction of the hurricane.

N.Brown 1st

9/22/2017 09:32:07 pm

Yes I agree with quote because in our imagination everything is perfect . In your imagination there isn't pain or hurt . In every Nation there is good and bad but the bad is seen more often . I think if more nations come together in a positive manner there will be less corruption and more peace . Too Bad imaginations can't come true .

W.Crawford III 1st

9/22/2017 11:32:14 pm

I agree everybody always imagine everything to be perfect when in reality nothing will ever be

B. Haynes 1st

9/22/2017 11:14:24 pm

I disagree with this statement because imagination can only do so much, considering it’s not the reality. Also, everyone has different views on what makes a nation great. Some might have ideas rooted in bigotry, while others have a dream of peace and solidarity. Even if imagination is the only good nation, what would that change in the real world? I think that it’s important to realize that although imagination creates change, only your actions can bring change. You can think up an imaginary world, but can you make it a reality?

W.Crawford iii 1st

9/22/2017 11:31:21 pm

The wuote is true. I say this because it is a dog eat dog world and the world is full of corruption and wrong doing. Yes you have people doing good but lets be completely hobest the bad outweighs the good. Imagination just help us cope with the bad. Therefore, the only good nation is imagination.

J. Bonilla - 4th Period

9/22/2017 11:47:45 pm

Imagination is not the only good nation, although it appears so it is not. Like the examples provided above there may be crimes going on all around the world, but there is still a good nation behind all the madness. The negative side, like crimes and violence are broadcasted more then the good, like helping hands. This makes the population have a certain stereotype towards the nation. Imagination can only go so far, even then it is not always positive. People have different mentalities therefore their imagination will be different some may believe what is considered wrong to the majority is considered right to them. Imagination may be a considered a good nation once it is determined and accomplished.

Fobbs A

9/22/2017 11:54:09 pm

I believe that Imagination Is a powerful thing. If we all come to together and share the world we'll be in a better place. Without the cruel ways of people the world would almost be perfect. But imagination is only imagination, it will not come true until you make it come true.Till then this world will forever be cruel and dangerous.

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