Men AND Women Are From Mars!

4/22/2014

Women marry men hoping they will change. Men marry women hoping they will not. So each is inevitably disappointed. -Albert Einstein

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Deadline: Apr. 25, 2014 11:59 p.m. CST

James Roberson

4/22/2014 12:05:20 pm

This dilemma is one of the main characteristics that cause men, and women to be contrary. When individuals first meet, that first impression is what they get. This quote is mainly focused on women wanting men to change for the good, and men not wanting women to change for the worse. No matter how hard a man, or woman, try neither can accomplish their goal sought out to change and not to change their significant other. Man don't want to change, and women can't help it!... =)

Deja Starks

4/22/2014 12:46:18 pm

I don't think that men doesn't want to change, its because they don't try and are content with being who they were before hand. On the other hand women would love to see a change for better out of men while men rather not see a change in his woman because he's probably already has something good.

James Roberson

4/22/2014 01:00:29 pm

In actuality, you are correct. I thank you for pointing that out to me. Consequently, men normally think with the left side of their brain. With that being said, we normally do not put in an effort to change because we are thinking objectively, and not creatively like the right brain(women); we are "content".

Morgan Cooks

4/23/2014 04:58:22 am

I agree with Deja because that's exactly how men are, they expect for women to stay the same for them but not willing to better themselves for us women.

Montez Thomas

4/24/2014 02:54:15 am

Yes. I agree with what she had said that's not always the case in a women's perspective an that they should not try looking into they eyes & talk from a mans perspective.

Sylvia Richardson

4/24/2014 09:17:19 am

Some men like to change, be different without a women's help.

Shanetria Robinson

4/25/2014 07:25:43 am

This is true because men do not want to just be with only one girl.

Jamicya Moore

4/25/2014 02:38:06 pm

I agree because some men's marry just to say they married but still have sidelines

jessica thompson

4/22/2014 01:36:49 pm

I agree with james simply because when a person shows you who they are the first time you should always believe them. A person rather male or female could change or not change but who they are will always define them and show.

Darrian Bryant

4/25/2014 02:58:09 pm

I agree with you. If someone shows you who they are, believe them the first time. It doesn't take very long for someone to show their true colors If you're with them long enough.

Shermaria Williams

4/23/2014 07:54:52 am

True but you also have to acknowledge the fact that there are some men that are actually willing to change for the better.

Vernell Newman

4/23/2014 12:36:01 pm

I agree because they call man dogs like all man is dogs and the men dont want girls to change from a respectful beautiful intelligent young women that they pose to be

Tia Lay

4/25/2014 01:14:20 pm

James I agree with you, most women do marry a man to try to get them change. In reality not every man change. Even though change is for the better.

Deja Starks

4/22/2014 12:41:11 pm

This assertion is saying that women marry men hoping they will change for the better, while the men are not and hoping that their mate will stay the same. Most of the time you get a change out of either, for better or for worst. I don't necessarily think that men go into marriages hoping their mate doesn't change because everybody switch up every now and then. Nothing last forever. So with that being said this quote has different points of views to it.

jessica thompson

4/22/2014 01:33:41 pm

The quote " Women marry men hoping they will change. Men marry women hoping they will not. So each is inevitably disappointed " means when you put a standard to something there will always be disappointment you should always take as is.

Simone frazier

4/23/2014 02:36:14 am

Though if people were already prepared for what they already know won't happen there wouldn't be any disappointments.

Simone frazier

4/23/2014 02:34:32 am

Women want men to be more and more engaged into the relationship throughout the years. While men want to keep that same women with the body he met back in their twenties. But in reality the women need to realize people don't change they do what they want and men need to know not everyone looks the same for ever.

Devante' Dickerson

4/24/2014 06:18:11 am

Great way break it down the quote for those who dont fully understand it Mr. Frazier.

Alexandra Guevara

4/25/2014 04:02:59 pm

Yes, I agree with you at the end you always are going to do wat you want you can't force no one to do a change.

Tiashmon

4/23/2014 03:38:06 am

Any person will be their own person based on their attitude and personality, because you can state your opinion about a person but it takes for them to take advantage of your opinion and act on it.

Morgan Cooks

4/23/2014 05:07:37 am

If you marry someone that means you fell in love with their flaws and all, so what is it to change if you married them already? A man is only going to do right by the woman HE wants. If he wants to change he will do so, if not then you got what you married.

Shanetria Robinson

4/25/2014 07:29:06 am

I agree because you shouldn't change nobody if you already marry them.

Jamaro Blue

4/25/2014 04:48:28 pm

I agree with you Morgan, why marry a person who you hope changes? Is this why facts show that 50 percent of marriages end in divorces?

Shermaria Williams

4/23/2014 07:52:39 am

Every woman's dream is to mold a man into her dream guy and they spend the rest of their lives trying to get them to be a certain way. And men, they expect woman to stay the same mentally and physically, both are unrealistic wishes.

Ronnie Carter

4/23/2014 08:39:54 am

This quote is absolutley true because when a man and a woman start dating they are fine with the many flaws and quirks that either may have.But as they go down the road and get married women get fed up or worried about the many flaws that her man has and wants to do her best to change him (and herself) for the better.Contrastly men are simply content with the way that their wkman and they themselves are.As a result while the woman tries to change her man for the better and also tries to imlrove her own self, the man seeks to keep everything the way it is.By doing this the two lovers are stuck in an eternal loop of change,their respective selves changing chaotically as they try in vain to find some common ground.

Vernell Newman

4/23/2014 12:37:57 pm

Its because most men got that I dont care attitude so the women see that and when the men try to change the women goes to worst

anfernee robinson

4/24/2014 02:11:14 am

Men are so stubborn when it come to change , but some women are too. I guess you can say that, they both don't know what they want to do when they get in marriage. Women want men to change when they get in marriage but they women expect not to change when they get marry. Reason is , is because they always feel like they right about everything

Montez Thomas

4/24/2014 02:51:22 am

That is true. Women often bealive that they can change a man by trying to shackle them down an try to mold them in their own image an get them to be the perfect man. That's not at all how men think they wouldn't have gotten serious to they wasn't already into them.

Luis Zuniga

4/24/2014 04:53:11 am

I agree with the quote because, women get together with a man believing that they will change. A guy most of the time do not change. If he is the way he is while a women date him, well that's how he going to be for the rest of his life.Men are stubborn about change , therefore a women might be able to straight him out but not change him.

Devante' Dickerson

4/24/2014 07:00:58 am

I've never heard this before but I'm slowly noticing that its true since women do hope their significant other will change for the best but don't. While the male side feels that their woman will stay the same way by that i mean body, attitude, and mindset, which ulitimately they won't stay the same. Sadly.

Abrasia Smith

4/24/2014 08:30:33 am

I agree with this quote simply because a women feels like she can change a man and make him become everything she wants him to be just because he vowed to her. A man feels like you loved me before marriage and you treated me this way, then when I marry you shouldn't nothing in this relationship change but the title of boyfriend girlfriend to two married people.

Sylvia Richardson

4/24/2014 09:15:21 am

While this statement is positive, it’s not true in all cases. Some women do marry men with the expectation that their bad habits will get better. Some women marry men and happy with what they have married and don’t want to change them. Men accept the woman that they married as she is from the very beginning and hope that she doesn’t change. Some men tend to get upset when the outside appearance of a woman changes. They may gain weight, stop cleaning house, stop cooking etc. My view is either one should not marry expecting the other is going change or try to change them. You knew what they were like when you married that person. According towordofman.com, it states that men not play games, its women. Men know what they want and don’t want. They are usually up front where as women act on emotion and do not pay attention to the signs.

Miracle fuller

4/25/2014 12:36:41 am

I agree with this because being married you are going to change in some kind of way weather it is weight or personality you will change... And i agree with Anfernee Robinson

Michael Davis-Gay

4/25/2014 01:08:02 am

this statement is true because she men marry women they believe they are perfect just the way the are even though they may want them to change a few things overall they want them to stay the same.On the other hand women try to change men to make them a better person then they were before both man and women want to make progress.

MyKayla Clark

4/25/2014 01:15:42 am

I'm indifferent with the quote because if your willing to marry someone that means you love then for them. You wouldn't want to change anything about them because they're who you fell in love with. Then again some people do change once they're married and the loved one may not like the change, which is why they want their loved one to be the same ALL the time.

Aiyzasha Poole

4/25/2014 02:11:47 am

I do agree with James this is a contrary dilemma. It is in fact a for sure disappointment to marry expecting something without knowing what may happen later on in life, or whatever else. Although, I do not believe it is not impossible, but only with the right person who is willing to do whatever it take. Now just going off first impression you may not see that person's true colors, or go in to the relationship believing you can change the other, which most lowly doesn't happen. That is inevitable disappointment in the making.

Shanetria Robinson

4/25/2014 07:23:11 am

This statement is true, a man will always be a man. It is not always right to marry someone that you have to change. Some men marry a woman just to make that woman happy. Women care about relationships more than men does because they do not want to be settled down.

Monserrat Aguilera

4/25/2014 10:45:33 am

I think that a lot of relationships start with a lot of passion. However, as time moves on people change. Women tend to seek security and therefore, they hope their soulmate changes in a way where they can feel secured. On the other hand, men seek simplicity, but at the same time they want that person to remain the same.

Tia Lay

4/25/2014 01:21:30 pm

In most relationships today, they start off all nice. Then down the road it gets ruff the man or the woman starts to trip. What most would say change. Later on they decide to get married, but the woman thinks the man is going to change his ways if they get married. Most of the time in the beginning of the marriage everything is good, but eventually things will go back to normal. Just because you get married that doesn't make that person change. He/she has to be willing to make that change for themselves. In other words this statement is very true!

Jamicya Moore

4/25/2014 02:36:43 pm

You don't marry people to change people you marry people to be happy, but it's all about choice of choice words and how you treat people before and while your married.

Darrian Bryant

4/25/2014 02:54:35 pm

I agree with the statement because that's exactly how it's come to be . Men expect us to stay exactly the way they met us but they aren't willing to change their ways for women

Alexandra Guevara

4/25/2014 04:01:04 pm

Women marry men hoping they will change. Men marry women hoping they will not. So each is inevitably disappointed. I definitely agree with this statement. Some women might think they don't have the perfect men but they think that they will change,Which I disagree everything you have been doing you will keep doing it. Some men want to have that beautiful smart special person forever, but you never know. At the end of the day everyone is going to do what they want.

Jamaro Blue

4/25/2014 04:43:13 pm

This statement seems like a sweeping generalization some women marry a man and hope that he never changes. A man might marry a woman with potential and root for her to undergo positive changes. In some cases the statement made by Einstein could be true, but in most cases the statement seems false. I would like to think that people get married to a person based on who they are at the moment, not based on who they will become. I was brought by a family that believes that a man and woman should seek the same things within a marriage.

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