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9/11/2024

 
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Colt Gray killed four people, two adults and two classmates, at his school this month with an AR-15-style rifle a weapon often linked to mass shootings and heavily debated for its civilian use. His father had bought the weapon for him as a gift, despite the ongoing controversy about minors having access to such powerful firearms. The AR-15, widely criticized for its destructive capability in a short amount of time, has become a symbol of the national gun control debate, particularly in relation to school shootings. He now faces four counts of felony murder.

Gray’s father, Colin Gray, also has been arrested in connection to the shootings. Last year, the authorities visited his home about threats they received from then, 13 year-old Colt. In this video, his father said everything was good. Today, Colin Gray is charged with four counts of involuntary manslaughter, two counts of second degree murder, and eight counts of cruelty to children. If convicted, he could spend up to 180 years in prison.

Unlike other mass school shooters, Colt Gray was not killed by police. He lived to tell his story. Since the shooting, the spotlight has been on Colt Gray’s family environment.

According to CNN, Gray's parents recently went through a bitter separation and custody dispute. They called police on each other, the family was evicted from at least one home, and Gray’s mother was arrested on suspicion of keying her husband’s car and drug possession according to police records.

Gray’s mother and maternal grandfather have accused Gray’s father of being verbally abusive toward his family for years.

“He was just a good kid, but he lived in an environment that was hostile,” said Gray's maternal grandfather. “His dad beat up on him, I mean, I’m not talking about physical, but screaming and hollering, and he did the same thing to my daughter.”

As the saying goes, "there's two sides to every story: his, hers, and the truth." And those stories differ drastically when it comes to a matter of public opinion.
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In the Los Angeles Times, the headline reads:
 "The teen arrested in Georgia school shooting is not an adult, and shouldn’t be treated like one." The article reports that, "Minors have less moral and emotional capacity, and logically should be subject to a different level of criminal culpability and punishment. It would be positively medieval to treat a criminally charged child the same as an adult."

Critics in the comments disagree and note that "he was old enough to know right from wrong" and that "he should... get life in prison." One commentor noted, "The kid was treated as an adult when he was given a weapon of war. The four people he killed will get no second chances."

This situation underscores a larger societal debate about whether teenagers like Colt, who commit horrific crimes, should be judged by adult standards. Some argue that 16 is old enough to understand the consequences of your actions, while others believe that circumstances like an unstable family life can cloud a teenager’s judgment and make them less culpable. 


Some critics are even pointing fingers at the NRA and certain gun owners, saying, "There's a cavalier attitude among some gun owners who believe the 2nd Amendment is sacrosanct and they are single-issue voters."

The culture surrounding firearms and minors in America is has always been scrutinized. Many believe that a lack of gun control, combined with a glorification of weapons like the AR-15 in music and books, and on television, social media, film, and video games play a significant role in tragedies like this.


But still, according to CNN, t
he grandfather said he had never seen Colt Gray show any signs of anger, but that his turbulent family life affected, and probably triggered the teenager.

This is a three-part question. Read and respond to them all, the respond to at least two other students across any class:

1. How do societal factors like family dynamics, environment, and race shape perceptions of guilt, responsibility, and consequences?

2. Should parents be held responsible when their children commit violent crimes? 

3. Why do you think the grandfather is mentioning the things he said?
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Torres. C 3/A
9/11/2024 07:04:02 pm

Societal factors such as family dynamics shape the way we view emotions and guilt because it allows us as children to see and interpet what our parents or guardians do. Parents should Definitely be held him accountable for the crimes of their children, because it is their responsibility to show them compassion and show them the how to handle their emotions. By not doing so, they impact the lives of other involuntarily. I believe that the grandfather is mentioning things of the child like his enviornment for 2 reasons, such as possible self reflection, in how he raised the father of the boy, or a way of defense for the kid, for the punishment to be less harsher.

Garcia M 3A
9/12/2024 11:58:42 am

I agree with you, a child's environment can affect how they act and when seeing what happens around them can impact the way they view things. parents should take accountability for their child's actions but they can't control the choices their child makes. The grandfather states everything based off how he raised his son and how he watched his grandson be raised .

Gonzalez J.4A
9/13/2024 06:27:29 pm

I completely agree with you! A child's environment and upbringing can significantly influence his or her behavior and worldview. While parents must take responsibility for providing a nurturing environment, they cannot control every decision their child makes. The grandfather's perspective is valuable, given his personal experience raising his son and observing the parenting of his grandson. His insights highlight the importance of self-reflection and recognizing the potential impact of our parenting styles on our children's lives.

Varela L 8B
9/12/2024 03:41:00 pm

I agree with you, if the parents dont show kids whats right from wrong the children will mimic their parents behavior and think all the things they are doing is okay.

Knowles K 1A
9/13/2024 11:45:49 pm

I agree that a child's upbringing can play a major role into how they act but for the father to buy him a gun I do think both of them should be held responsible.

Castillo V 6B
9/12/2024 08:04:43 pm

Yes I do think parents should be held accountable for the crime of their children. It is their responsability to teach their children what is right and wrong.

Lara, S 8B
9/15/2024 08:26:40 pm

If parents let their children see all the violence and they grow up to see their parents do as parents are usually their children get in the habit of thinking what their parents do is right. Even though they did not force him they showed him how violence was okay. Parents have to show and tell their children right fro wrong.

Malvaez Miguel, 1A
9/13/2024 03:54:42 pm

Colt was old enough to know right from wrong, the parents still should have never given him a fire arm to keep for himself. Even though colt was old enough to know right from wrong and the parents still made an error giving him a weapon, both the parents and Colt should be held accountable because of the lives that were taken.

Echeverria D 6B
9/13/2024 11:14:24 pm

I also think that everyone should get introuble for everyone bad thing you do because if you don't and no one tells you how are you going to get that your in the wrong.

Alyssa P 6B
9/13/2024 09:43:02 pm

Parents can be accountable for what their child has done but not so much for their actions yes of course their responsible to show them compassion and emotions to know that if they need to talk their parents would be their to listen and not to push them away or say anything can can make it worse, but the parents can't be responsible for their actions they don't tell them what to do or make them do it they control their self no one else does and they should know whats right from wrong and what they can do can be consider as a crime.

Alvarez J 8B
9/13/2024 11:57:43 pm

To some degree the parents are responsible for the child's wrong doing only because their sole purpose is to guide the into making good choices and being a good person no matter what, and they failed at that and much more.

Alarcon A 1A
9/15/2024 09:08:06 pm

I agree parents are responsible on how they raise their kid to teach them right from wrong and are supposed to set an example and be a role model for them. Parents should also be able to communicate with their child whenever there should never be an excuse to why your child wasn’t raised right.

Dilworth Z 6B
9/13/2024 11:01:04 pm

He mentioned those things to show what kinda house hold gray has been living in and how things like this nature was bound to happen

Salazar J. 1A
9/15/2024 09:01:31 pm

I agree with you, parents have full responsibility on how their child acts If the parent doesn't show their child about behavior or how their actions have consequences it can affect how they act with others.

William Z. 2B
9/16/2024 12:57:33 pm

I don't agree with Salazar J, because that like saying if you got in trouble at school and the teacher calls home your parent is going to take responsibility for your actions.

Thompson D. 8B
9/15/2024 09:08:02 pm

I see your point about family dynamics shaping our views on emotions and guilt. It's true that parents play a crucial role in teaching their children how to handle emotions. However, holding parents fully accountable for their children's crimes can be tricky. Kids also have their own free will and can be influenced by other factors like peers and mental health.

Hayes T, 8B
9/20/2024 10:39:21 am

I agree a little bit because they child could've been around other things that could've triggered him to do that but the parents are the ones who gave him the gun so that's why they are held accountable.

Garcia M 3A
9/12/2024 11:32:27 am

Societal factors such as the ones stated in the passage frame individuals experiences and interception of moral and social expectations within their communities. Parents should be held partially responsible for their children's violent crimes, as they play a crucial role in shaping their values, behavior, and environment , but accountability should also consider the child's individual choice and external influences. I think the grandfather stated the things he did for 1 self reflection and 2 defence .

Varela L 8B
9/12/2024 03:44:47 pm

I agree on the part of why the grandfather said the things he said because he was trying to give a reason as to why he believes Colt did it and also to defend him and show it wasn't his fault. If parents know exactly what their child is doing is wrong and they ignore it and dont correct it, then they should be held responsible as they ignored the situation and refused to take time to teach their child.

Bronson M, 4A
9/13/2024 09:38:57 am

I agree the societal factors stated have a impact on individual interception of moral and social expectations. The parents should be held responsible especially for giving Colt the gun. The grandfather stated Colt wasn't a angry person etc for defense.

Sanchez A 3A
9/13/2024 03:17:33 pm

The parents should be held accountable for the crimes committed, they did shape the environment that was created around colt.Societal factors do frame an individuals experiences and social expectations.

Fuentez M/3A
9/13/2024 11:52:42 pm

I don't agree with this statement. Why would the parents be accountable for a crime their kid decided to make? Yes its sad to go through what he went through but it was Colts not the parents , decision to go an kill 2 teachers and 2 students. it was all Colts idea.
Colt had other ways he could have gone to with expressing his mental health and anger. Not by commiting murder at a school. Colt needs to be accountable for the actions he decided to make.

Kendell Hurrington 4A
9/13/2024 11:08:48 pm

Yes,the community that a child grows up in is their only real base line for the real world, so the things the see, hear , and learn always affect them. the age and mentality of the minor should always be held in consideration , although they should face consequences , the parent should be given the appropriate leeway when it comes to the action of their kid. the grandfather for sure was trying to give his grandson a way out / potintial sympathy from the courts.

Echeverria D 6B
9/13/2024 11:12:48 pm

I believe that colt dad was a bad parent and maybe if he was a better dad he could have save colt gray.

Angel. F 4A link
9/14/2024 11:11:54 pm

I agree with you when it comes to what the grandfather said, he most likely wanted Colt to be more favorably viewed in the public eye.

Salazar J. 1A
9/15/2024 09:03:50 pm

I agree, although the parents do play a role on how they shape their kids behavior. The kid should also be held accountable since they committed the crime on their own.

Varela, L 8B
9/12/2024 03:36:37 pm

Societal factors such as family dynamics, environment, and race shape an individual's perceptions of guilt, responsibility, and consequences by making them think certain things are okay to do. If parents enable such behavior then yes, they should be held responsible for not righting their child's behavior. The grandfather is mentioning the things he said because he believes that its the environment he was raised in that caused him to do what he did.

Garcia M 3A
9/12/2024 04:57:10 pm

I agree that the social factors shape an individual's perceptions. Someone can look around at their surroundings or the people they are around and gain certain actions based off what they saw just because they see other people doing it .

Castillo V 6B
9/12/2024 08:11:00 pm

Yes I do think the reason the grandfather mentioned all that was because he thinks the environment he grew up in affected him and caused him to do it.

Grant Z 4A
9/13/2024 08:39:23 am

Deffiently, the grandfather knows that Colt didn't have a good home environment and now see's what kind of acffect it had.

Malvaez Miguel, 1A
9/13/2024 03:51:36 pm

Colt was exposed to such a fire arm and was raised that a fire arm was an acceptable thing to have at such a young age so the father should be held accountable.

Divine Ojeh 8B
9/13/2024 03:57:16 pm

I agree, kids when they are in a bad enviorment, the parents should try their best to become a better person and show their child right and wrong and to give them advices warning them about the outside world.

Guzmán X. 6B
9/13/2024 04:52:45 pm

Totally agree! Family, environment, and race can skew our sense of right and wrong. Because parents who enable bad behavior are partly responsible. The grandfather's sharing his story because he thinks his upbringing led him astray.

Gonzalez S 4A link
9/13/2024 09:38:11 pm

I agree with your statements but I also believe that the grandfather was also trying to protect his grandson by accusing the father of his wrong doings.

Castillo V 6B
9/12/2024 07:43:16 pm

Family dynamics influence our early understanding of right and wrong, shaping our moral compass. Yes I do think parents should be held responsable if their child is under age and they are the ones that provide the children with the resources to commit the crime. Like in this case the father gifted Colt an AR-15 riffle. I believe the grandfather wants people to understand that Colt was going through family problems and was angry and did not know how to express or deal with his anger.

Grant Z 4A
9/13/2024 08:44:20 am

Colts anger was really with his dad and maybe even his mom, but because he didn't know how to express it he took it out on others. He was wroung for killing the kids.Though his parents could've prevented the situation. He shouldn't never had the gun in the first place.

Bronson M, 4A
9/13/2024 09:44:21 am

I agree, family dynamics impact individuals the understanding of right and wrong. The parents should be held responsible for allowing him to have the gun then not even know about him bringing a huge weapon to school. Colts grandfather doesn't look at Colt in a bad way and wants people to understand what he went through. His grandfather is defending him.

Teniente J. 1A
9/13/2024 03:08:14 pm

Family dynamics, and environment really shape how a person especially a child who doesn't know much of the world morals, and only picks up habits that they see from their parents. The parent should be at fault since the dad treated him bad, and by giving him an automatic rifle for a birthday present at 16 which is not a good parenting.

Divine Ojeh 8B
9/13/2024 03:55:55 pm

I agree that parents should be held responsible if their child is under age and they are the ones that provide the children with the resources to commit the crime, because as a parent you should always teach your kids right and wrongs and you should also show a good example to your kids.

Kendell Hurrington 4A
9/13/2024 11:03:02 pm

family dynamics for sure impact ones early understanding and development of morals. The father gifting the AR-15 rifle was pure negligence and fault lies entirely on him. The grandfather was definitely trying his best to shift responsibility from his grandson onto the father.

Knowles K !A
9/13/2024 11:48:29 pm

I agree with your statement even though he had a tough childhood for the dad to buy his son a gun that totally falls on him and on the son both should be charged and held responsible

Ruiz, M. 8B
9/13/2024 11:44:41 pm

I agree, at an early stage of life, every believe we bring along with us usually originates from out parent's teachings, this shapes our future morals as we grow up. That's why if a child is still under supervision by their parents, they should be held partially accountable. Like you mention, in this case, his actions were only able to be accomplished with the AR-15 riffle that Colt's father provided. At such a young age, the parents should still monitor and oversee the location and usage of the gun, so Colt being able to use it without alerting anyone shows the negligence from Colt's parents.

Angel. F 4A
9/14/2024 11:02:54 pm

I agree with parents being held responsible if their child committed violent crimes, especially in this case when the parents were abusive and provided him with a the firearm.

Grant Z 4A
9/13/2024 08:33:34 am

Family dyanmics can have a postive or negitive acffect on us even as kids. As kids we go living our lives only knowing what we see around us and think that's the only way of things. It's not untill you get older when you start to realize the bad things around you. Parents sometimes don't realize how their behavior can effect the child. However they shouldn't be held accountable for our actions when we were the ones making them.The grandfather maybe just felt the need to give others insight of what Colt had been through.

Torres. C 4/A
9/13/2024 12:40:03 pm

I think that your statement on how we only realize our environment until we are older is true. When we get to grow with people and see how they are, we realize how the environment isn't or is normal.

Gonzalez J.4A
9/13/2024 06:24:57 pm

"I completely agree with you! Family dynamics can have a profound impact on our lives, shaping our perceptions and behaviors. Only when we gain perspective and maturity can we recognize negative influences. You're right that parents don't always realize the effects of their behavior, but that doesn't necessarily mean they should be held responsible for our actions as adults. Grandpa's comments seem to be an attempt to provide context and understanding, rather than excuse Colt's behavior. Well said!"

Ruiz, M. 8B
9/13/2024 11:33:43 pm

I don't fully agree,while yes children are in their learning stage, only knowing what they take in as correct or wrong, depending on the raised environment, it's possible even as older, children could still not fully comprehend their wrong believes since they have been raised to believe that what's right is right and what's wrong is wrong. Following this, parents should be held to partial responsibility of their child's actions, true its the child's doing, but children learn and usually lead the path they have been thought. If found to be the roots of the actions, the parents should be held responsible.

Hayes T, 8B
9/20/2024 10:44:34 am

I agree with you I feel like the parents should be held an accountable of what happened but I think colt knew what he was doing and feel like he knows his right from wrongs.

Oliver K 1A
9/14/2024 02:01:37 am

That is very true when we get older; we start to realize right from wrong and start to make choices for ourselves even without our guardian's approval. Grandfather could have done something to maybe prevent or get him the help he needs.

Miles D 4A
9/15/2024 07:28:04 pm

I agree we are affected heavily by the environment around us, and from a young age we are affected by those things. I also agree with what you said about how parents shouldn't be held responsible for their kids choices but i think they should only if they encourage their kid to make bad choices.

Lara, S 8B
9/15/2024 08:19:22 pm

I agree we are the ones making the decision to take action. No one is forcing us to do anything so why should someone else take the responsibilities for it.There are so many other people who can influence someone other than their parents who are not with their children 24/7.

Soraya link
9/16/2024 08:43:21 am

I agree with your statement, and understand your point of view. Environment does indeed play a part in shaping a persons mindset.

Soraya B 4A link
9/16/2024 08:49:15 am

I agree with your statement, and understand your point of view. Environment does indeed play a part in shaping a persons mindset.

Dralyn Stephens 4A
9/18/2024 08:20:26 pm

I agree that the way he was raised could have affected what he thought was right or wrong but still at the age he was he knew that what he did wasn't acceptable

Bronson M, 4A
9/13/2024 09:33:54 am

Societal factors like being around the wrong group of people, growing up in a negative household, and a abusive environment can lead to triggering people. Facing consequences such as jail or no job. Parents should be responsible when their children commit violent crimes because they need to be raised knowing right from wrong. Parents should be a positive example to their children. The grandfather is mentioning Colt not being an angry kid to protect him and what he has been through. There is no excuse for what Colt did.

Torres. C, 3/A
9/13/2024 12:38:26 pm

I would like to first state that your statement and Mine are alike, and I 100% agree. I would like to add how it is possible that this could all stem from the grandfather treatment of the parent, that led to this cycle of hate.

Gonzalez S 4A link
9/13/2024 09:49:16 pm

Yes I absolutely agree with your statement it is like mine. Everything you mentioned from the way the grandfather mentioned the father was all just a closure to protect his grandson Colt ´ s horrible actions.

Vega F. 1A
9/14/2024 03:01:38 pm

I agree that abusive environments and also hanging out with the wrong kind of people can lead to triggering people

Luster J. 3A
9/15/2024 09:21:39 pm

I love the way you phrased this and I completely agree that parents should be a good role model for their kids. The kid's can't learn unless they are taught so if you don't teach your child right from wrong you deserve some type of consequence.

Teniente J. 1A
9/13/2024 03:01:14 pm

Family,environment,and race plays a major role in shaping a child mindset, and morals which shape how they will perceive others or how they act towards the same age group. Parents should be accountable due to not being able to see the signs early or teaching them whats good or bad choices. Parents are supposed to guide them to a good future not a bad one. The only reason the grandfather said those things were to give a insight to that colt wasn't born like that but instead taught by his parents actions which he thought was normal.

Sanchez A 3A
9/13/2024 03:14:05 pm

Family, environment and race does play a major role in shaping a child's mindset.These are core emotions that lead our decisions, with this family it switches from what's good and bad.Colt was never born with bad intentions it was taught and fed into his mind with the actions of his parents.

Sanchez A 3A
9/13/2024 03:08:25 pm

Family dynamics and environment do play a role on responsibility and consequences especially when it deals with shootings.Kids look up to their parents on how they act on how they influence them, if it's constant arguing and disputing between the parents the child can get sad,tired or even mad that they are like that leading to bad outcomes.Yes the parents should be held accountable for the child's crimes, it was bought by the parents it should be looked over by them until he's 18, it was not held in a proper gun safe with scheduled time to be taken out with parental supervision in sight.The grandfather said this to lift up some accusations about the kid and put the attention to the father about his past.

Teniente J. 1A
9/13/2024 03:20:33 pm

The way they are treated or area they were raised definitely come into play of how they look at responsibility, and the effect that is caused by their actions since they think its okay after seeing their parent do it or relate to that. The grandfather states that Colt lived in a harsh childhood due to the harsh treatment from his dad so he is trying to say that Colt is nota bad kid just didn't know what he did was bad.

Alyssa P 6B
9/13/2024 09:34:36 pm

Being treated or especially how they were raised has a huge part of responsibility because what they see when they are being raised by parents who don't really think that the actions they make can affect to their kids are seeing and by what they see they might think its ok for them to do and once they what they see their parents are doing it can have consequences to their action or might not change for the better.

Luster J. 3A
9/15/2024 09:19:01 pm

I agree that the way he was raised could have affected what he thought was right or wrong but still at the age he was he knew that what he did wasn't acceptable

Malvaez M. 1A
9/13/2024 03:48:55 pm

Race, Environment, and family dynamics can affect a child heavily on the way they act. A child can be shown to violance in a household and can grow up to most likely to others since that was what Colt was growing up with and was exposed to verbal violance it changed the way he acted towards those around him. The parents should only be convicted in some situations, but in this case the father was the one who handed Colt the gun as a president and knew that a child should never carry any sort of fire arm. The grandfather was telling about the way Colt was raised and could be a reason as to why Colt could have thought negative and what also could have lead him to commit such a horrible crime.

Guzman X. 6B
9/13/2024 04:47:54 pm

Yeah, I totally agree with your statement . Our surroundings and upbringing can really mess with us. Colt was exposed to violence and his dad gave him a gun, which is crazy. His dad was super irresponsible. The grandfather's story shows how a rough childhood can lead to big problems.

Lopez M 1A
9/13/2024 11:50:38 pm

I agree with your statements because a child that has only seen violence in the duration of his childhood will most likely grow up to have violent tendencies as an adult. His father should be held accountable since was the one that gifted him that firearm. Colt's grandfather said those things to show how Colt grew up and show how his childhood led to the present events.

Oliver K 1A
9/14/2024 01:56:34 am

I agree, especially on the gun part, knowing he wasn't mentally okay, you handed him a gun, let alone one of the most destructive ones that is under controversy at the moment. The grandfather knew everything; unfortunately, he couldn't stop him.

Lopez H 4A
9/15/2024 08:32:17 pm

I agree, Colt was raised in an abusive household which resulted in him acting differently towards others. And yes Colt’s father should be also accused of the murders because he did hand Colt the gun which ended up being used

Divine Ojeh 8B
9/13/2024 03:54:14 pm

1. Family dynamics, environment, and race influence how society recognize guilt and responsibility. People from unstable or abusive family backgrounds are viewed more.

2. Yes they should be held accountable when their children commit violent crimes.

3. To share his view, he tries to tell us that Colt was not violent but a effect on a bad environment.

Kendell Hurrington 4A
9/13/2024 03:58:11 pm

We all are affected by the aspects of society we fall under and although stereotypes can be harmful and dismissive of real experiences, they can also be gauges for the mind state someone may have.. for example, a girl who grows up with a middle class mom and dad would be expected to understand the moral laws better than the daughter of a single, lower class parent . but in all actuality they more than not they both understand that stealing is illegal, but have different perspectives on how morally wrong it is. the one who grew up well off may seem like she rides a high horse, deeming all theft as bad theft , while the girl who grew up with a struggling mother would now that there are instances where there is no other choice.

Gun related crimes are always much more complex when compared to petty theft or assault. Adding children into the mix doesn't make in any easier, but regardless parents should be held responsible to some extent for the crimes of their minor children as the committing of theas crimes are evident of a fault in parenting or home life. This would most certainly be the case for a teen shooter in this day and age who sees the effects of school shootings daily on social media and news.

The grandfather was likely give us the confirmation of our theories while also trying to give his own daughter a chance to seem more blameless in this tragedy. he knows that she could be charges some he's trying to shuffle the cards in his favor by telling the public of the abuse she faced , scapegoating the father.

Stevenson J 8B link
9/20/2024 02:19:29 pm

Colt's grandfather said those things to show how Colt grew up and show how his childhood led to the present events.

Guzmán X. 6B
9/13/2024 04:42:01 pm

They can shape individual beliefs, values, and behaviors, leading to varying attitudes towards blame and accountability. For instance, some cultures emphasize collective responsibility, while others focus on individual guilt. While parents shouldn't be solely blamed for their children's actions, they can be held accountable for neglecting their duties or contributing to an environment that fosters harmful behavior. The grandfather mentions his past experiences to convey his feelings of guilt, responsibility, and regret. By sharing his story, he seeks to connect with his grandson, offer a cautionary tale, and perhaps find redemption or forgiveness.

Alvarez J 8B
9/13/2024 11:54:38 pm

I believe the grandpa wants to believe his grandchild is not a bad person, but only someone that was given the wrong guidance so i strongly resonate with what you said.

Gonzalez J.4A
9/13/2024 06:21:55 pm

1. Social factors such as family dynamics, environment, and race significantly influence perceptions of blame, responsibility, and consequences. For example, a person from a disadvantaged background may be seen as more culpable due to systemic injustices. Similarly, racial biases can affect how we assign blame and responsibility.

2. Parents should be held accountable to some degree when their children commit violent crimes, especially if they did not provide adequate supervision, guidance, or support. However, it is essential to consider individual circumstances and not solely blame parents for their children’s actions.

3. The grandfather mentions the hostile home environment and verbal abuse to provide context for Colt’s actions. It suggests that Colt’s behavior was shaped by his upbringing and that he was not fully responsible for his actions. By sharing this information, the grandfather aims to humanize Colt and foster empathy.

Lopez M 1A
9/13/2024 11:46:53 pm

I agree with all three statements in which the social factors colt was raised with deeply affected him. As well as parents being held accountable to some degree, especially if they were one of the reasons their child committed those actions.

Vega F. 1A
9/14/2024 02:57:05 pm

I agree with you that people from disadvantaged backgrounds tend to appear more guilty because people already see them that way.

Thompson D. 8B
9/15/2024 09:09:21 pm

For 3, I think you're right that he could be reflecting on his own parenting or trying to defend the kid. It’s a way to provide context and possibly soften the punishment. So, I partly agree with you but think it's a bit more complex.

Lara, S 8B
9/13/2024 09:17:21 pm

1). Family dynamics, environment, and race shape perceptions of guilt, responsibility have a major impact on children. The way a kid grows up they pick on everything around them which influences the way they view and understand.
2). Parents who tell their children violence is okay and have the kid around violence where they easily can pick up on it. If a parent gives children easy access to any weapons then yes they should be responsible. If parents teach their children right and wrong and provide their children with a good influence around them, showing them the right way then no parents should not be accountable because other accounts that affect children. Children can be influenced by kids at school or on social media, where parents have no viewpoint on it. Nowadays there are a lot of thing children do behind their parents back even if their parents tell them it is wrong.
3). The grandfather mentions what he did to give context of what could have impacted what Colts did. Explains that he is not a violent child, he has just had the wrong role model to show him, according to his grandfather.

Alyssa P 6B
9/13/2024 09:26:56 pm

Societal factors such as the ones that were stated in the passage above from family dynamics, environment including there race shape perceptions and etc can affect the way view emotions and their guilt because children and teens see what there parents or guardians do right in front of them and thinks it's ok to follow them of their actions or see what their doing is the right what to do so. Should parents be held responsible for when their child commit crime that a good question to ask and my answer to that would have to probably half and half because, yes it may be the parents fault by giving their kid a gift that has to deal with firearm or anything that has to do with harming others not thinking anything of what they could do or what their thinking, but it's not the parents fault they can't control what they do or their actions the kids should know whats right from wrong including having anything to deal with hurting or killing others.I think the grandfather included the things he had said was to see why or what made him do it because the grandfather had said Gray's farther did not treat them really well he was being very verbally abusive towards them for years so for him having to deal with that while he was young that could have been part for the actions for what has happened or how tired and fed up Gray was fed up with his own farther treating them with disrespect.

Palacios R 1A
9/15/2024 10:40:44 pm

Parents are held responsible because they have a duty to educate and supervise their minor children. Even if they can't control what they do or their actions, kids should know what's right from wrong.

Colocho J 6B
9/16/2024 02:25:02 pm

To be honest not only that but children now a days like they say, should be acting right and knowing the difference between right and wrong.

Stevenson link
9/20/2024 02:17:42 pm

yes it may be the parents fault by giving their kid a gift that has to deal with firearm or anything that has to do with harming others not thinking anything of what they could do or what their thinking, but it's not the parents fault they can't control what they do or their actions the kids should know whats right from wrong including having anything to deal with hurting or killing others.

Gonzalez S 4A link
9/13/2024 09:29:28 pm

Societal factors such as family structure, environmental influences, and racial background significantly impact how individuals perceive guilt accountability and the repercussions of their actions.
I believe it is the parents responsibility for their child's actions because they are the ones who raise them to become who they are.
The way I see it the grandfather mentioned the father ´ s actions to justify Colt Grays attack to be the father ´ s doings and mark Colt as innocent.

Dilworth Z 6B
9/13/2024 10:58:00 pm

Not only did they raise them they gave him exactly what needed to do what he’s done knowing all the threats he’s made .

jahlil hawkins 4A
9/19/2024 03:21:18 pm

like they just help him out

Fuentez M/ 3A
9/13/2024 11:46:58 pm

I agree with what you say but I also have to disagree .Yes parents are responsible for how they raise their child but it is also the child's responsibility to know right from wrong. Colt had no right to murder 4 people because of his misfortune . Colt made this decision not his parents. 10% is what happens in life 90% is how you react to it.
Colt needs to be accountable for his actions,and not have pity on him because of his misfortune.

Allen J 1A
9/14/2024 11:27:46 pm

I agree because while parents influence their child's development, individuals must still choose their actions. Colt's decision to commit murder, despite his hardships, reflects personal accountability. Life's challenges are inevitable, but how one responds defines their character. Colt’s actions are his responsibility, and he must face the consequences.

Palacios R 1A
9/15/2024 11:14:02 pm

I've analyze the case and even if the children are diagnosed as mentally insane, crazy, it's still not the parent's fault. However the dad did gave the boy a gun at such young age which caused a murder giving bad parenting.

Dilworth Z 6B
9/13/2024 10:55:28 pm

Societal factors play a part with by what we surround ourselves with who are around and what we pick up after , how different environment play a role in the upbringing of children in their everyday life
I believe if you are a parent giving your child a Weapon of that caliber / or a weapon at all should face the consequence of which that Child acts upon, he mentioned those things he said so reporters would know what goes on in the house of gray and how things got brought to life

Esquivel E. 1A
9/14/2024 02:28:44 pm

Yes! We are very observant beings, we will pick up on anything. The parents in this case should be held accountable especially for allowing the kid a gun.

Curlee A, 4A
9/14/2024 06:01:23 pm

Completely agree, because what does a 14 year old boy need a gun for? Even if it's self defense, that shouldn't be his position in the household. A 14 year old boy who's brain isn't fully developed should not be able to have a gun. Situations like this only exemplify that to own a gun take maturity, and shouldn't just be handed out to children nonetheless.

Echeverria D 6B
9/13/2024 11:10:56 pm

I think haveing a strong influence on the way young people see themselves others and the world, and influence their relationships, behaviour.I think parents should be held responsible when there children dose something bad Becuase if they don't they are going to keep doing the bad thing.I belive that colt gray just had a bad day Becuase he should scream at him and also disrespecting him.

Allen J 1A
9/14/2024 11:26:10 pm

I agree because a child's environment profoundly shapes their self-perception and behavior. Parents are crucial in guiding their children, and if they don't address negative actions, those behaviors can persist. Colt Gray’s reaction may have stemmed from a difficult day, highlighting the need for better communication and respect in parenting.

Smith R. 8B
9/15/2024 10:50:57 pm

I think it’s unfair to say he “just had a bad day.” A lot of us had bad days, but we don’t go on to instill fear and violence in society. In a crime such as murder, bad days are not an excuse nor should be a part of the conversation.

Ruiz, M. 8B
9/13/2024 11:25:53 pm

Societal factions such as the environment, family dynamics and race commonly affect the perception of guilt, responsibility, and consequences due to children being at the stage of developing. They're at the stage where they take in everything around them and build their habits, actions, and responsibilities around them. This leads to a possible chain reaction leading to unforgivable consequences if they are not raised in a good environment.
I believe that parents should be held responsible to a certain degree if they don't make an effort on preventing their children from committing violent crimes. Up until the age of 18 or until they the child departs from their parents, a parent should oversee and lead their child in the right path. A parent should be held responsible if they avoid reporting any unfamiliar behavior from their child or provide unnecessary behavior or items towards their child that could lead to unforgiving actions from them.
The grandfather is probably mentioning these things just now to prevent her daughter, mother of Colt Gray, from being held responsible of the actions Colt did, which I believe is possibly partially untrue sine such environment were have been in place, it would have likely been reported sooner, possibly prevent Colt's actions.

Victorino H 8B
9/15/2024 11:39:52 pm

I agree with you as children from a young age learn from everything in their surroundings and they can pick up bad habits which are very hard to break and this can lead to them making bad choices.
I agree with you as a parent who does not try to make an effort in trying to stop them from doing something violent that could cause them to hurt themselves or hurt others should be held responsible.

Alarcon, A 3A
9/13/2024 11:38:33 pm


It all leads up to how they were raised up to the point where they consider what’s right and what’s wrong the environment they grew up in has a strong influence on the way they see things I do agree with the critics when they say that he’s old enough to tell the difference from right and wrong although we don’t really know what he considered right in the first place it all revolves around the people we associate with or the places we are that can have a negative affect on us people say colt wasn’t deemed as a bad kid because he didn’t know what he was doing was wrong but I think it’s clear to teach your kids that hurting others is bad. I think they are also responsible for not being able to raise their kid from knowing the difference between right and wrong. You’re supposed to be a good role model for your kid and set an example but it seems they never planned on being that for the kid.

Curlee A, 4A
9/14/2024 05:54:37 pm

While it is true we don't know what Mr. Gray considered right or wrong. That doesn't change the fact that he had to have known what would happen if he killed those people. He had to have known that he would end up in jail, or at least on the run. Even if he didn't know what he was doing was "wrong" had definitely knew it wasn't going to end well. Despite that however, he commited the crime as he intended.

Fuentez,M / 3A
9/13/2024 11:39:02 pm

Societal factors does take a huge role In your consequences and responsibility. I understand where the thinking is here, Colt was going through a rough patch with his parents, and what the grandfather said that he was being verbally abused could mess up his mental state as a 13 year old boy. He could have bottled up his anger because of the misfortune, but he cannot use his misfortune to be his excuse to go and murder people. Depending on the situation , parents should and should not be accountable for the kids crimes. If a parents says "go murder that person" then obviously they should get arrested and face time in prison. On the other hand if the kid grows up in a not so happy environment and goes and take out his anger and mental issues by commiting crimes. Then that is on them who decided to go do that. Colt had a decision to take out his anger in a better way , it was his decision to go and murder people it was his fault. No matter how bad your situation is it all depends on how you will react towards it.
The grandfather kept mentioning the abuse to make people feel some type of pity for Colt. It is to make people see that he was in a bad situation that's why he did what he did. It could also be so the police or the judge makes the father do more jail time because of the fact he was abusing his ex-wife and Colt. Although Colts situation is not the best, the two students and the two teachers did not deserve to have their life taken away from them.

Lopez M 1A
9/13/2024 11:42:47 pm

1.Societal factors heavily affect the way someone grows up. For example, if a child grew up in a very violent household then that violence will be shown in their actions.
2. I believe parents should be held accountable to some extent. They shouldn't have given him that gun in the first place but then they cannot control the actions of their own child. There could have been actions to prevent the tragedy but it is important to separate the parent from the child.
3. His grandfather said what he said to give some sort of explanation for Colts actions. That his actions were caused by the way he was raised and who raised him.

Smith R. 8B
9/15/2024 10:45:18 pm

His parents had an obligation to keep the weapons away, hidden, and away from Colt and they failed to due so. I personally think that they should be held accountable 100% because they were already made aware of the threats he had made last year.

Sinkfield, E 1A
9/15/2024 11:39:42 pm

His parents should be held responsible, they had opportunities to keep him away from these weapons. Even when they were made aware of his threats, that was a telltale sign that he needed to stay as far away from weapons as possible. Despite that, they allowed him to be around them.

John, C 4A
9/18/2024 01:44:17 pm

I agree that his parents shouldn't have given him the gun but you can't separate the child's choices from the environment the parents created.

Chatmon, J 4A
9/19/2024 03:24:06 pm

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Alvarez J 8B
9/13/2024 11:51:19 pm

No matter where you grow up, sociental factors affect everyone. If the child was born into a loving family that never had to deal with the parents worrying about money then they'll most likely turn out to be a good functioning adult that wasn't stunted in their childhood by something traumatic. The crime a child commits is to some degree the parents fault no matter the crime. Yes, there are exceptions at times but the parents are 100% in charge of making sure their kid is raised right no matter what. Based on what the grandfather said i believe he thinks that the reason the son did that horrible crime was because he was just raised in a bad environment and is in some way trying to explain why his grandchild did that.

Esquivel E. 1A
9/14/2024 02:25:52 pm

I agree that the parents are partially in at fault when a child commits a crime. The grandfather understood that his grandson did not have a good environment.

Gomez D 1A
9/15/2024 10:42:40 pm

I agree like we all might go through stuff you never really know but that doesn't give any type of right to take peoples life just like that

Oliver K 1A
9/14/2024 01:50:21 am

Societal factors can change a person's way of development because while growing up in a hostile environment, you could perceive things differently that normally are wrong, but because of your clouded judgment, it could be right for you. Parents should be held responsible for their child's actions to a certain extent. However, in this case, where the father gave him an AR-15, he should be held responsible for his son's actions. The also grandfather mentioned those things because he genuinely thinks or knows that there was a problem in that house, but it wasn't solved before it got too big and blew up. He believes that he was a good kid, but what was going on at home messed up his perception of things.

Esquivel E. 1A
9/14/2024 02:23:00 pm

Societal factors shape perceptions of guilt, responsibility and consequences because we are observant beings, children are like sponges they learn from everything they're exposed of. Parents should be responsible for their childrens crimes when they are under the age of 18. The grandfather mentioned the things he said because he knew his son in law created a hostile environment for his grandchild.

Vega F. 1A
9/14/2024 02:52:54 pm

These kinds of things shape the perception of guilt and all that because if they had a bad childhood then people tend to sympathize with them or assume that it's not their fault, that they were made that way.
Parents shouldn't always be held responsible for their children's crimes because it's not always their fault and sometimes they don't really know what's going on in their children's lives.The grandfather mentions those kinds of things so that people will sympathize more with the child and people will change their minds that it wasn’t his fault.

Curlee A, 4A
9/14/2024 05:42:29 pm

Societal factors play a major role on perceptions of guilt, responsibility, and consequences. This is because people want connections when it comes to these tragedies. A variable that usually makes people feel safer.
As for parents being held for their child's crime, I think that depends on the situation at hand. If a child goes to school and chokes someone to death, that's not really the parents fault. But if the parent is actively supporting such actions, and even glorifying those actions, then yes they should be held accountable.
Finally, the comment the grandfather made is most likely to show how Mr. Gray's environment was not the best. It's unclear whether or not the grandfather knew the full extent of his family's dysfunctionality. But he knew enough to make the correlation of Mr. Gray's "outburst" to his home life.

Miles D 4A
9/15/2024 07:19:34 pm

i agree because when people hear that somebody came from a harsh environment they can understand why they did that. I also agree that a parent shouldn't be held responsible unless they encourage a kids violent behavior, and the grandfather definately said those things because he knew the environment wasn't the best.

Angel.F, 4/A
9/14/2024 10:49:29 pm

Societal factors do definitely influence how people act especially children or young adults can be easily shape by the surroundings, for this case the hostile environment Colt was growing up in definitely didn't help his outlook on life which in turn made him dark thoughts which lead to him to carry out his shooting. Parents should be held accountable when there children commit violent crimes to certain extent, when the parent/parent's clearly see signs of there child having violent thoughts or violent tendencies and or supply a firearm should be held accountable. The grandfather mentions that Colt was abused physically and verbally to imply that Colt didn't just shoot up his school on a whim, he was shaped by his environment which was hostile and toxic.

Allen J 1A
9/14/2024 11:24:21 pm

Allen J 1A Absolutely! A child's environment and upbringing play a crucial role in shaping their behavior and outlook. While parents are responsible for creating a supportive atmosphere, they can’t dictate every choice their child makes. The grandfather’s views, shaped by raising his own son and observing his grandson, underscore the value of self-reflection in parenting.

Hayes T 8B
9/15/2024 05:15:20 pm

Family dynamics, environment, and race shape perceptions of guilt, responsibility, and consequences can have an impact on children because of what the stuff around him goes on and can influence them to do something. Yes and no I think the parents should be responsible for the violent crimes their child commits because they are the ones who gave him the gun but at the same time he should know from right and wrong to know what not to do. I think the grandfather mentioned those things to give them information about why Colt did those things because he grew up in a harsh environment and was raised by people who also didn't treat each other right

Lopez H 4A
9/15/2024 08:26:47 pm

Exactly! family dynamics can influence someone and shape their ways of thinking. Also yes to the parents being punished because of their kids actions because there might be instances where the parents had nothing to do with their kid being the way they are but on the other hand some parents like Colt’s gave him the gun which was used in the shooting

Miles D 4A
9/15/2024 07:15:43 pm

Societal factors like family dynamic and environment have a huge factor in responsibility and shape of perception.It allows people to see a connection to the crime/ tragedy commited. When people hear that a person that came from a rough upbringing commited a crime they feel a liitle bit more assured that it couldn't have been just anyone they run into in their day to day life. As for parents taking responsibility for their childrens crimes, they should only be punished if they are encouraging their kids violent behaviors. A parent shouldn't be held responsible if their kid commited and the parents never encouraged their kid when the acted violently. Finally I think the grandfather mentioned those things to show that colt didn't have the best environment growing up and thats why he did what he did.

Lopez H 4A
9/15/2024 08:21:52 pm

Family dynamics definitely affect someone’s upbringing, they could be exposed to all forms of abuse and that can definitely shape someone the wrong way, parents should also be punished because of their child’s actions, especially if they are the ones that give them the weapons and partake in their way of thinking because of the abuse as previously mentioned. There are instances where the child was raised right with no signs of abuse or any type of mistreatment, they shouldn’t be punished since they didn’t influence them. The grandfather was mentioned because he’s was trying to justify Colt’s actions and try to maybe reduce his sentence or make him seem more humane

Salazar J. 1A
9/15/2024 08:49:26 pm

Societal factors such as family dynamics, race and enviroment definitely play a big part on the actions someone makes. People can get influenced by their surroundings in a negative especially if they were surrounded by toxic parents like Colt. Parents should be held responsible when their kids commit crimes. Usually parents can be the influence of the childs actions. Sometimes they dont take time to check up on their kid and it could lead to a lot of negative outcomes. The grandfather is mentioning about the environment Colt grew up in to try to create sympathy or get people to understand why Colt thought it was okay to commit such crime.

Alarcon A 3A
9/15/2024 09:19:12 pm

I agree one hundred percent parents should be held responsible when it comes to teaching their kids right from wrong. Parents should check up on their kids once in a while without excuses and should be someone their kid looks up to as a parent you’d want your child to follow in your footsteps. His grandfather seems like he tries to justify his actions by putting the blame in the environment he was raised but it’s not really said that he tried to even do anything to remove him from that environment.

Sinkfield, E 1A
9/15/2024 11:32:18 pm

I agree, with your first two points, and that's what Colt's grandfather was trying to do. It's just sad to see that he was trying so hard to defend his grandson, yes, that's his grandson, but Colt is a cold murderer. Regardless of his upbringing, which was sad, he can make his own decisions.

Colocho J 6B
9/16/2024 12:03:56 pm

Colt Gray is a murderer and I think he was jealous because he sees everyone is living life non like him.

Thompson D. 8B
9/15/2024 09:06:23 pm

Societal factors like family dynamics, environment, and race shape perceptions of guilt, responsibility, and consequences by influencing values, behaviors, and biases. A supportive family can instill a strong moral compass, while a challenging environment or systemic racism can lead to different societal expectations and judgments.
Whether parents should be held responsible when their children commit violent crimes is complex. Parents are expected to guide and supervise their children, but children also have their own free will. External factors like peer influence and mental health can also play a role, making it unfair to always blame parents.
The grandfather might be mentioning certain things to share wisdom, provide context, or offer a different perspective based on his life experiences. He could be trying to impart valuable lessons or connect with his family on a deeper level.

Victorino H 8B
9/15/2024 11:30:58 pm

I agree with you as parents can't completely control their kids lives and what they do when they're not around while we can expect the kid to act how the parent raised them its difficult like you said with outside factors like peer pressure.

Luster, J 3A
9/15/2024 09:16:54 pm

Societal factors like family dynamics, environment, and race place a big role when it comes to the conclusion of being guilty or not, the responsibility you hold, and the consequences you face. Gray’s family obviously wasn't the picture perfect family and the amount of stress and hostility Gray was around played a big part in the way he thinks. Because of this he gets some leeway in the way he was convicted. The responsibility also rightfully falls onto his parents too because if it wasn't for the irresponsible way they gave their child a firearm this situation wouldn’t have happened. The parents of Gray should have never given a child such a powerful weapon, and even if they did it should have been with the proper education and safety measures. Gray still faces most of the consequences because of the fact that he and him alone were the only one to commit the crime. Gray’s grandfather also says the things he does to push blame off of his grandson. He won’t acknowledge the horrible crimes that were committed but the things that pushed him to do the act.

Palacios R 1A
9/15/2024 09:43:46 pm

1. Family dynamics influence on young people to see themselves and the world, it can affect their behaviors and mentality.

2. The parents should be accountable and responsible for giving the boy the gun as a gift. However the boy should also face consequences because of the murder no matter if he is a minor.

3. I say kids who grow in bad homes can be greatly affected. Soon if they become bad people it can lead them to 2 places. Getting killed, or go to jail,

Jeremiah H
9/18/2024 01:59:45 pm

I agree to a certain extent because many children are affected by their parent actions

kyren M. 6b
9/19/2024 10:09:10 pm

children are affected by there children actions but there's only so much a parent can do

Gomez D 1A
9/15/2024 10:37:23 pm

Some family issues can affect a child's mental health like it might make them view things differently because of what they see at home and the parents are much to blame because how would you give a 13 yo kid a AR 15 as a "present" like no 13 yo is mentally capable to know how much power a gun like that can have they don't know the sevarity of being in possesion of a gun like that and the things that the grandfather said may have been to like make someone feel guilty about colt like try to make the situation a little better like no you're grown you shpuld be able to know right from wrong and if the grandfather knew what was happening with colt why didn't he speak up why didn't act on it

Soraya B 4A link
9/16/2024 08:47:24 am

I agree with your statement, being that colt was a little bit older should have known right and wrong. He was going through a hard time back at home but does not excuse what he did. He should have reached out for help instead.

Smith R. 8B
9/15/2024 10:40:48 pm

Societal factors are things that can contribute to the way a person thinks and acts. When we are around our parents or others around us, we begin to copy the way they talk, act, or think. For example, in this case Colt’s grandfather had mentioned a history of abuse that was going on in the household. This could add on to the idea that Colt most likely acted out in such way due to the violence he saw at home. Although this could have most likely been one of the reasons as to why Colt decided to incite the school shooting, this does not mean his actions were acceptable nor that cycles can’t be broken. After his parents were made aware of the threats he had made to shoot up the school previously, they should have taken the matter into their own hands and speak to professionals to come up with ways they could help to prevent anything tragic such as this from happening. His parents should be held accountable because as parents they had a responsibility to monitor the things Colt was doing especially after being confronted of the threats he had made last year. They could have prevented this in a multitude of ways, but no action was taken and they should also face consequences.

Sinkfield, E 1A
9/15/2024 11:25:02 pm

1. Societal factors such as family dynamics, environment, and race can shape guilt, responsibility, and consequences, in a positive and or negative way. So much so, that people can see it perfectly acceptable to take a life, or steal, or anything that may seem wrong to people, as okay. With this, society and the law make it very evident that regardless of these factors, you will be dealt with accordingly to those standards. Taking a life, no matter what is absolutely inexcusable, unless defending your life and the ones around you.

2. Parents should be held responsible when their kids commit violent crimes. Parents should be responsible for their child's, physical, mental, and emotional well being. So when their child does something so violent, the parents need to be held accountable as well.

3. The grandfather is mentioning these things because he's biased. Who would want to see their grandchild like that, but if he was so worried, why didn't he step in earlier when he had the chance to intervene? He could've helped prevent this crime his grandson committed.

Edwards K.6B
9/19/2024 05:15:18 pm

I agree the grand father could've done something to prevent this from happening

Victorino H 8B
9/15/2024 11:25:36 pm

1) Societal factors like family dynamics and environment can shape the foundation of the way someone thinks and acts. In the case of colt gray he grew up in hostile environment with his father being abusive towards him and with him growing up in this environment he was more than likely going to be hostile.
2) whether parents should be held accountable for when their child commits a violet crime, is quite a difficult topic as there are many circumstances, but i strongly believe that Colt Grays father should be held accountable as he provided Colt access to a fire arm let alone such a powerful firearm and what could a teenager possibly need a weapon that strong for.
3)I believe that the grandfather is trying to gain sympathy for his grandson by the things hes saying like him growing up in a rough home environment as people are more likely to sympathize with some who had a rough upbringing.

Soraya link
9/16/2024 08:40:45 am

The environment, race, and family all play a role to why Colt Gray turned out the way he did. At a young age when you start learning more about yourself and developing to be the person you are, having a bad environment shapes you. Knowing Colt Gray was not in a good environment with his family says a lot on the person he is. His parents should be held accountable, because they enable the behavior by giving him a gun, and not focusing on his mental health. His grandfather said that about Colt's father was verbally abusive, so it was clear he was not in a good stable household.

Colocho J 6B
9/16/2024 12:02:50 pm

Becoming fiercely angry and frustrated can make you think your vaunerable.

Williams Z. 6B
9/16/2024 01:04:51 pm

Why do you think the grandfather is mentioning the things he said?
I think the grandfather saying this thing because he young and he didn't do this thing own basically he trying say his whole childhood was rough it led up him killing all those teens

Jeremiah H 4a
9/18/2024 01:58:18 pm

I disagree because their old enough to make their own decision

jahlil hawkins 4A
9/19/2024 03:18:31 pm

i agree u is because that is u grow up in a rough childhood u outta take it out yourself or take it out on somebody

Ze'Dekiah williams
9/16/2024 12:49:04 pm

I feel like the parent should"t be help responsible for their kids actions because the parent didn't tell that boy go kill them kids at his school

Williams J 6b
9/18/2024 05:23:31 pm

I agree because the parents shouldn't got to prison for their child's acts

Dralyn Stephens 4A
9/18/2024 08:18:36 pm

I disagree, because the parents were the people who made him so therefore he has his parents genes which makes him act the way he does.

John C, 4A
9/18/2024 01:29:17 pm


1.People are shaped by their environment. People's environment can influence their behavior and motivation to act. an environment of encouragement, optimism, and safety may enhance self-esteem and assist in shaping views of self and compassion toward others.

2.Parental figures shouldn't be held entirely responsible for their children's actions on the other hand they should face some backlash for not seeing the possible signs or being involved enough to tell their are things wrong with their own children

3.I believe the grandfather added the comment to express how he thinks these emotions formed to him committing these actions, He could also be trying to take off some of the blame off his grandson.

Chatmon J, 4A
9/19/2024 02:53:03 pm

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Hurd J 4a
9/19/2024 02:54:57 pm

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Jeremiah H 4a
9/18/2024 01:57:01 pm

1. people are created by their environment, peoples environment can influence them and their behavior and their safety may create self esteem and compassion for themselves

2. parents shouldn't be held responsible for their child actions but they should be held accountable for not seeing the signs or not showcasing the right and wrong to their seed

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3. I think the grandfather mentioned the things to show why he does the things he does.

Williams J 6b
9/18/2024 05:20:06 pm

I agree because regardless if you have been abused you have no right to go shoot up school because of your mental problems.

Kyren M. 6b
9/19/2024 10:07:21 pm

many people have been abused and have gotten worse treatment then abused so there's no reason your shooting up schools.

Galvez J, 3A
9/20/2024 12:45:44 am

Why should parents not be held accountable they are the ones who buy such dangerous weapons for the child. Even if they didn't buy it and the child bought the weapon in secret it's still the parent's fault for neglecting and not searching for any possible weapon. The grandfather is likely just doing it to make himself not look bad.

Williams J 6b
9/18/2024 05:17:32 pm

by my understanding Although this could have most likely been one of the reasons as to why Colt decided to incite the school shooting, this does not mean his actions were acceptable nor that cycles can’t be broken. After his parents were made aware of the threats he had made to shoot up the school previously, they should have taken the matter into their own hands and speak to professionals to come up with ways they could help to prevent anything tragic such as this from happening. His parents should be held accountable because as parents they had a responsibility to monitor the things Colt was doing especially after being confronted of the threats he had made last year. They could have prevented this in a multitude of ways, but no action was taken and they should also face consequences.

Aiyanyo E 3A
9/20/2024 02:36:05 pm

I agree that the parents are partially to blame for this school shooting since Colt was making threats on it way before. It wouldn't be far fetch to say that the parents were to ones to encourage him to shoot. Since there was so much signs that it was going to happen but it seems like they didn't care or incited it.

Dralyn Stephens 4A
9/18/2024 08:16:42 pm

Colt was old enough to know right from wrong, the parents still should have never given him a fire arm to keep for himself.the parent should be given the appropriate leeway when it comes to the action of their kid. the grandfather for sure was trying to give his grandson a way out / potintial sympathy from the courts.

jahlil hawkins 4A
9/19/2024 02:57:49 pm

I think colt parents shouldve checked him for weapon at least and talked to him and see what was wrong with him and see how is he going because as a kid I feel like if any kid needs a fire arm they need help or they are going through things and it also his parents fault they should been responsbil 2

Edwards K.6B
9/19/2024 05:10:48 pm

As a parent you are responsible for anything that your child does.

Hernandez. I 6b
9/20/2024 11:19:42 am

I agree completely because the parent in the one teaching the child.

Johnson C 8B
9/20/2024 02:26:58 pm

I agree because as a parent you have the responsibility for what ever your child does

Edwards K.6B
9/19/2024 05:08:05 pm

1.Colt Gray's father would make his son feel he was worthless.Which probably caused him to lash in such an extreme way.He didn't feel guilty because of the way his father treated him.He probably showed no remorse or just didn't discipline him correctly.
2.Yes because as a parent you probably saw this and saw your child behavior and did nothing about it.Now that your child has committed a crime due to you as a parent not being responsible and correcting your child's behavior.
3.His grandfather makes that statement because he knows that the reason his grandson committed that crime is because of his dad being verbally abusive.

Devonte James 6B
9/19/2024 05:52:39 pm

I think a child's environment can affect how they act and seeing all the bad things happening around them can have a major impact on the way they view things and act and Parents should take full accountability for their child's actions but they can't control all of there child's actions.

Galvez J, 3A
9/20/2024 12:37:19 am

I can see how it can affect them negatively, but wouldn't a bad environment make you want to be better. If you grew up in an abusive home then wouldn't that make you want to treat your own child with extra care. Your environment to me should motivate you instead of keeping you in the same cycle as your guardian,

Kyren M. 6b
9/19/2024 10:03:49 pm

people consequences shape them into who they are thinking and looking at certain reactions thinking its okay when its not leading to doing bad habits as second nature.parents should not be responsible,the kid is his own person and makes his own decisions nobody can stop you from doing something u really want to do.his grandfather said what he said trying to give the kid reason and benefit.

Hernandez.I 6b
9/20/2024 11:11:29 am

I don't really agree yes they are their own person, but the way the parents treat them can influence them on how they act

Hernandez. I 6b
9/20/2024 11:18:56 am

I dont agree. yes, the kids are their own person but the parents influence them to do the things they do based on how they treat their kids

Johnson C 8B
9/20/2024 02:26:01 pm

I disagree because they are their own person, but the way the parents treat them can influence them on how they act.

Aiyanyo E 3A
9/20/2024 02:38:05 pm

I agree since the boy is 16 years of age. He should know what is right and wrong and shooting up a school is definitely not right. Although the parents are partially to blame, he is old enough to not kill innocent kids that have nothing to do with your personal life.

Shaunbrey C. 6B
9/20/2024 03:02:09 pm

I agree with what your saying but the father should be held responible in him giving a little boy a gun.

Galvez J, 3A
9/20/2024 12:33:01 am

Your environment growing up should not have such a big negative affect on you, but instead a positive one. If you grew up poor then your thoughts shouldn't be how you're gonna make to the next day without eating, but your thoughts should be how you are going to get rich. Just because you grew up with a disadvantage doesn't mean you have to keep it for the rest of your life. Parents should be held responsible as they are the ones providing the kids with these dangerous weapons. If you think as a parent giving your child any type of gun as a present is a good choice then maybe you deserve to get punished. Although I can see maybe the need to give one for self defense, but even then you could get your child pepper spray or even a pocket knife there is no need to give you child a powerful weapon. The grandfather mentioning those things is definitely to make himself and the killer earn more sympathy to the public although they do not deserve those points.

Hernandez. I 6b
9/20/2024 11:06:32 am

I think societal factors play a role in the emotions the kids feel. If they are in a abusive household there is going to be hatred being held towards the parent or people themselves, or if they are in a household that they dont feel like they are enough they try to act out to make them notice them. I think parents should be held responsible if they are parents that resent their children or beat their children. The grandfather is mentioning things he said to show that the way his dad treats him could be a reason on why colt did those things

Johnson C 8B
9/20/2024 02:24:40 pm

I think having a strong influence on the way young people see themselves others and the world, and influence their relationships, behavior.I think parents should be held responsible when there children dose something bad Because if they don't they are going to keep doing the bad thing.

Aiyanyo E 3B
9/20/2024 02:33:09 pm

No matter the situation you are in, you do not have the right to bring an assault weapon to a public place and start murdering people just because you feel triggered. Those kids aren't the reason for the way you are, so why end those kids lives? Societal factors like age do play apart in it, since people are treating him like he doesn't know better just because of his age, even though that is not the case. The parents are definitely to blame, especially the father, because you don't gift a minor an assault weapon. I think the reason the grandfather says that is because something happened between him and his parents that causes him to lash out and that according to the grandfather, he was a good kid. In conclusion, i believe he does need to be convicted as an adult since he is old enough to know what's right or wrong.

Shaunbrey C. 6B
9/20/2024 03:00:22 pm

I think the little kid should rightfully be charged with what he did, but the dad should be held reponsible to for getting the gun but I dont think he should be face life cause you cant control what someone does.


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